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Old 10-18-2024, 09:44 AM   #1
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I heard a stat yesterday. Mahomes has the lowest yards per attempt in the league this year at just over 5 yards per attempt. The Chiefs also have the lowest number of explosive plays in the league. I didn't realize that it was that bad. How can that be and they be 5-0?
That could also be interpreted as a stat in our favor. We haven't needed to go downfield to win, yet.

We're saving our big plays for the playoffs!
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Old 10-18-2024, 08:39 AM   #2
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Yeah, I don't know if it's "not trying" but they're not foot on gas for sure. Some of the stuff is just Pat not taking chances.

The injuries just killed it.
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Old 10-18-2024, 08:40 AM   #3
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Winning is a great deodorant. The offense needs to be better.
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Old 10-18-2024, 09:23 AM   #4
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This is an elite take. The real truth that a lot of people don’t want to acknowledge because they know scary it is given the Chiefs are 5-0.

Mahomes himself said in a pre-season interview that he tries not to run as much anymore until it’s do or die, or playoff games.

Andy has also been afforded the ability to be extremely patient and hold stuff back for the past five or so years. It’s not the prettiest formula for regular season games but it clearly leads to championships.
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Old 10-18-2024, 09:43 AM   #5
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This is an elite take. The real truth that a lot of people don’t want to acknowledge because they know scary it is given the Chiefs are 5-0.

Mahomes himself said in a pre-season interview that he tries not to run as much anymore until it’s do or die, or playoff games.

Andy has also been afforded the ability to be extremely patient and hold stuff back for the past five or so years. It’s not the prettiest formula for regular season games but it clearly leads to championships.
It's hard to evaluate as a fan, especially here on CP.

Because I think a lot of us (not me necessarily) are skeptical that the Chiefs, or any football team for that matter, can "flip the switch" and play amazing ball in the playoffs if you've looked mediocre to average all season up to that point. Fans and analysts want empirical evidence that you've been playing well to say you're the team to look out for. If you hold back all season, you're just a big floating question mark, no one knows if it's holding back or just actually being a bad team.

All of our football knowledge tells us that last year was a fluke and we can't just be bad all year and suddenly be good when it matters... but maybe you can? Who knows.
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Old 10-18-2024, 09:58 AM   #6
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The AFCW being anemic might play into their conservative regular season game-planning.

It's a battle of attrition...
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:01 AM   #7
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I just don't buy the "he's saving this or that"

There's only 17 games in a season. It's a full sprint.
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:50 AM   #8
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I just don't buy the "he's saving this or that"

There's only 17 games in a season. It's a full sprint.
Yep. It's a cope. You don't magically start trying or start installing new plays in the playoffs. There are tweaks here and there but no, if they could score 30 points a game right now, they would.
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:54 AM   #9
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Yep. It's a cope. You don't magically start trying or start installing new plays in the playoffs. There are tweaks here and there but no, if they could score 30 points a game right now, they would.
"cope" We're undefeated. I mean WTF?

And they flipped a switch in the playoffs LAST YEAR. IDGAF if they score 30 points a game. They don't need to because the defense is awesome and Mahomes will beat anyone when it matters. Sorry the games aren't more exciting.
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:01 AM   #10
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"cope" We're undefeated. I mean WTF?

And they flipped a switch in the playoffs LAST YEAR. IDGAF if they score 30 points a game. They don't need to because the defense is awesome and Mahomes will beat anyone when it matters. Sorry the games aren't more exciting.
I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
Coping with what?! Winning 11 straight games including the Superbowl?? The offense was rebuilt in the offseason and then had the rug pulled out by injuries and uneven LT play. Mahomes had a couple down games trying to compensate and then looked awesome last game. Our running game looks better than ever and Patrick is figuring it out with his patchwork WR room. What in the holy **** do any of us have to cope with?
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:11 AM   #12
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
Mahomes is definitely trying to get himself back into playing form, hes too much of a competitor. Theres no way he doesn't care hes having his worst season as a starter statistucally. He himself said he wanted to bring back the offense of years past. Then the injuries happened and he honestly wasn't very sharp even before the injuries.

I think Prisco's point is "the Chiefs have gotten to a point as an organization that they can be playing C ball offensively through the regular season and id still be terrified of them in the playoffs because of their proven track record of success" and honestly hes not wrong.

Because as much as Mahomes wants to be throwing for 50 TDs every season, he wants to win Super Bowls more.
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
I absolutely believe if this D wasn't elite and we needed 30+ ppg to win, then Patrick Mahomes would be playing at an MVP level. He knows he doesn't have to, so he doesn't play as good. I'm sure dragging this team got pretty exhausting, so now that he doesn't have to he's gonna let the D do it.
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:05 AM   #14
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Verderame said this on his Patreon this morning. Nick Jacobs and Matt Derrick have said this. Nate Taylor has said this. Grunny has said it too.

The Chiefs season is basically 3-4 games a year in January with 2-3 games in season to get the 1 seed for those games.

The Chiefs have shown next to nothing new on offense. Basically the Leo Chenal red zone plays. Basically Ravens, Bengals, Bills and Texans. SF is a game they’ll play hard in but it ultimately means nothing in terms of AFC seeding.

This team is playing like it’s preseason. They’re working on shit on offense. This is what the Patriots did for so many years.
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Old 10-18-2024, 10:07 AM   #15
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It's not really about "showing new stuff" though. It's more execution and basic play to play stuff that they're just not doing as well.

People scoff at it, but he's said it himself, the QB just isn't playing well right now. If it's the injuries, sure that makes sense. But if he just needs the weapons....do it. Let some defense walk, inflate the offense at the skill positions, the OL whatever.

Get him back playing at his best.
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