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Old 10-18-2024, 11:01 AM   #1
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"cope" We're undefeated. I mean WTF?

And they flipped a switch in the playoffs LAST YEAR. IDGAF if they score 30 points a game. They don't need to because the defense is awesome and Mahomes will beat anyone when it matters. Sorry the games aren't more exciting.
I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:10 AM   #2
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
Coping with what?! Winning 11 straight games including the Superbowl?? The offense was rebuilt in the offseason and then had the rug pulled out by injuries and uneven LT play. Mahomes had a couple down games trying to compensate and then looked awesome last game. Our running game looks better than ever and Patrick is figuring it out with his patchwork WR room. What in the holy **** do any of us have to cope with?
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:27 AM   #3
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Coping with what?! Winning 11 straight games including the Superbowl?? The offense was rebuilt in the offseason and then had the rug pulled out by injuries and uneven LT play. Mahomes had a couple down games trying to compensate and then looked awesome last game. Our running game looks better than ever and Patrick is figuring it out with his patchwork WR room. What in the holy **** do any of us have to cope with?
So wait, it is injuries and trying to figure it out or are they holding things back and they don't need to play well cause the defense is awesome? Can't have it both ways.
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:30 AM   #4
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So wait, it is injuries and trying to figure it out or are they holding things back and they don't need to play well cause the defense is awesome? Can't have it both ways.
Yes you can.
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Old 10-18-2024, 02:21 PM   #5
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So wait, it is injuries and trying to figure it out or are they holding things back and they don't need to play well cause the defense is awesome? Can't have it both ways.
They're pretty clearly doing both.
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Old 10-18-2024, 11:11 AM   #6
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
Mahomes is definitely trying to get himself back into playing form, hes too much of a competitor. Theres no way he doesn't care hes having his worst season as a starter statistucally. He himself said he wanted to bring back the offense of years past. Then the injuries happened and he honestly wasn't very sharp even before the injuries.

I think Prisco's point is "the Chiefs have gotten to a point as an organization that they can be playing C ball offensively through the regular season and id still be terrified of them in the playoffs because of their proven track record of success" and honestly hes not wrong.

Because as much as Mahomes wants to be throwing for 50 TDs every season, he wants to win Super Bowls more.
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I agree that they will. But do you think Mahomes is just not trying anymore? Like he could play how he did 2018-2022 but just doesn't feel like it? He got tired of having fun and playing loose and scoring a bunch of points a game? He's throwing a pick a game and has the lowest yards per target in the league because he's doing it on purpose to save plays/points for the playoffs?

The offense has been bad because of injuries and because the players we usually count on haven't been performing to the standards we expect of them. Any other reason is a cope.
I absolutely believe if this D wasn't elite and we needed 30+ ppg to win, then Patrick Mahomes would be playing at an MVP level. He knows he doesn't have to, so he doesn't play as good. I'm sure dragging this team got pretty exhausting, so now that he doesn't have to he's gonna let the D do it.
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Old 10-18-2024, 12:59 PM   #8
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I absolutely believe if this D wasn't elite and we needed 30+ ppg to win, then Patrick Mahomes would be playing at an MVP level. He knows he doesn't have to, so he doesn't play as good. I'm sure dragging this team got pretty exhausting, so now that he doesn't have to he's gonna let the D do it.
I’ve never understood that thinking though.

If I have such a good defense…I’d think I’d be more aggressive on offense as the defense can bail me out
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Old 10-18-2024, 01:50 PM   #9
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I’ve never understood that thinking though.

If I have such a good defense…I’d think I’d be more aggressive on offense as the defense can bail me out
Yep. And being aggressive on offense in turn makes the defense better. Imagine if the defense could be rested because the offense was sustaining drives. Imagine if they could pin their ears back late in games because the offense made it a multiple score game.
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I absolutely believe if this D wasn't elite and we needed 30+ ppg to win, then Patrick Mahomes would be playing at an MVP level. He knows he doesn't have to, so he doesn't play as good. I'm sure dragging this team got pretty exhausting, so now that he doesn't have to he's gonna let the D do it.
This makes no sense. What would be the purpose? To make himself more annoyed when shit doesn't work? He likes 3 and outs more now than he likes touchdowns back in the day? He likes winning games 17-14 rather than 30-14 and the whole team can take the 4th quarter off? He watches the defense give A+ effort to bail them out and is purposefully giving C effort just because he knows the D will bail them out?
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Old 10-18-2024, 04:08 PM   #11
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I absolutely believe if this D wasn't elite and we needed 30+ ppg to win, then Patrick Mahomes would be playing at an MVP level. He knows he doesn't have to, so he doesn't play as good. I'm sure dragging this team got pretty exhausting, so now that he doesn't have to he's gonna let the D do it.
Well yea.

Imagine as a counterfactual that Hollywood and Rice and Pacheco were 100% and KC lost Chris Jones for the season and the linebackers were in various states of coming in and out of the line up.
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