Look at the year Xavier Worthy could be having

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Exactly.

Where are the star players on Buffalo?

And Allen is about to win MVP.

Josh Allen has been sacked a career low 13 times.

Patrick Mahomes has already been sacked a career high 35 times and there are still 3 games left.

do you get it now?

[UChieffyBugger]

Originally Posted by O.city

Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

True or false?

Who just happened go beat his main rivals In their own buildings and then faced the best team in the NFC on route to winning the superbowl? Yes I'll take "Mr average" thank you

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by O.city

Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

True or false?

Didnt he win 2 super bowls and a mvp without Hill?

[Best22]

Originally Posted by O.city

Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

True or false?

He was elite in 2022 and his WR1 was JuJu

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Didnt he win 2 super bowls and a mvp without Hill?

Originally Posted by Best22

He was elite in 2022 and his WR1 was JuJu

Would you consider his tight end an elite pass catcher? Is he still elite?

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by O.city

Without elite pass catchers, Pat has been an average to above average qb

True or false?

MVP in 2022 with a pretty average WR group. The difference? Much better LT situation with Orlando Brown compared to the shit show we've seen this year.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by DRM08

MVP in 2022 with a pretty average WR group. The difference? Much better LT situation with Orlando Brown compared to the shit show we've seen this year.

Plus, that may well have been Kelce’s best season. He was insane that year.

Kelce’s decline hurts, because he’s still getting a similar number of targets to years past. Problem is that each of those targets results in less production than before.

Hope he sticks it out for another year, but his workload needs to decrease.

[comochiefsfan]

Originally Posted by smithandrew051

Plus, that may well have been Kelce’s best season. He was insane that year.

Kelce’s decline hurts, because he’s still getting a similar number of targets to years past. Problem is that each of those targets results in less production than before.

Hope he sticks it out for another year, but his workload needs to decrease.

Kelce has definitely lost a step, but the elephant in the room to me is that it looks like he hasn’t taken great care of his body either.

Being 35 has nothing to do with the gut that all of a sudden appeared this season. I get that he has other priorities in his life now, but I can’t help but wonder if his decline could’ve been tempered if he had hit the offseason a little harder.

[smithandrew051]

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan

Kelce has definitely lost a step, but the elephant in the room to me is that it looks like he hasn’t taken great care of his body either.

Being 35 has nothing to do with the gut that all of a sudden appeared this season. I get that he has other priorities in his life now, but I can’t help but wonder if his decline could’ve been tempered if he had hit the offseason a little harder.

My wife and I said the same thing.

He does look heavy and less defined this year.

[tyton75]

I don't care if he's superman back there... if I QB gets hit often enough, its inevitable that he's going to quicken his pace and get "happy feet"

Dude is a straight up killer and we only have one loss when both of our tackles are playing like dogshit and more often than not, he's got less than 2 seconds to make a decision.

[Wallcrawler]

Our quarterback has been put on the ground more than some running backs this year.

You think Eli Manning beat Brady twice because he was the better quarterback? That Giants pass rush hounded Brady relentlessly and they couldn't protect him.

I don't give a **** who you put back there. If he's gotta even think that there's gonna be a free rusher, then his mind is on who is going to **** this play up on the o line, and not on reading the defense and finding the open guy.

Moreover, if his head coach is going to refuse to ease that pressure with the run threat, and just call strings of passes to let these guys practice pinning their ears back, them the results aren't going to be good.

[Pitt Gorilla]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Our quarterback has been put on the ground more than some running backs this year.

You think Eli Manning beat Brady twice because he was the better quarterback? That Giants pass rush hounded Brady relentlessly and they couldn't protect him.

I don't give a **** who you put back there. If he's gotta even think that there's gonna be a free rusher, then his mind is on who is going to **** this play up on the o line, and not on reading the defense and finding the open guy.

Moreover, if his head coach is going to refuse to ease that pressure with the run threat, and just call strings of passes to let these guys practice pinning their ears back, them the results aren't going to be good.

Which ones?

[htismaqe]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Our quarterback has been put on the ground more than some running backs this year.

You think Eli Manning beat Brady twice because he was the better quarterback? That Giants pass rush hounded Brady relentlessly and they couldn't protect him.

I don't give a **** who you put back there. If he's gotta even think that there's gonna be a free rusher, then his mind is on who is going to **** this play up on the o line, and not on reading the defense and finding the open guy.

Moreover, if his head coach is going to refuse to ease that pressure with the run threat, and just call strings of passes to let these guys practice pinning their ears back, them the results aren't going to be good.

There is no run threat. That's why teams are playing everything short. They don't respect our run game at all. Outside of a couple of runs by Pacheco, the Chiefs are mostly 2 yards and a cloud of dust. Leaning on that in the playoffs will get you beat.

[UChieffyBugger]

As for folks talking about Pat's deep ball. He hit one in a critical moment to Sammy to send us to the superbowl. Then hit a huge one to Tyreek to win the said superbowl. Hit a massive one to MVS to beat the Ravens and go to the superbowl. Then in the superbowl threw a huge one to Hardman to get the team into the ten yard line before Pacheco fumbled. Ya'll see a pattern? In critical moments he's been able to do it.

This year some of the deep balls failing have been on him, Worthy or the line. The Atlanta one? On Pat. The Buffalo one? On Worthy. The Raiders one? On the O-line. It's a mixture of things that they need to clean up. With Hollywood back now hopefully we'll see an improvement in that department as we head into the playoffs. Because Lord knows I expect him and Worthy to burn some secondaries and create more opportunities for Pat to launch it. Let's just pray they start connecting. We've seen proof that Pat can get it done.

[comochiefsfan]

I really think he may need to try and work with some different QB coaches this offseason.

Who does Josh Allen work with? Whoever that is has done wonders with Allen’s mechanics.

The fundmentals have just gotten sloppy. And have slowly but steadily declined over the last couple years.

Seems like he might need someone outside of his core “camp” to come in and give him a fresh perspective and clean things up.