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Old 09-24-2008, 03:48 AM  
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Let's put all the QB talk right here
Seeing how all the draft threads turn into QB talk lets use this thread as the QB draft thread....I'll start by putting up some videos.
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:47 PM   #526
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If Stafford is the only underclassman that comes out Freeman just on workouts has a pretty good chance of being the 2nd QB taken.
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Old 10-26-2008, 02:50 PM   #527
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He really really should not come out this year. I just don't think his decision making is good enough and he'll slide down quite a bit.

If he stays in school, he's got a good chance of being top 15 next year, even if Sanchez and Bradford declare.
Eh, I'm not sure how much one extra year of getting pounded at K-State is going to help his development. I think hooking up with a pro team and a good QB coach would do more for him. To me, the big issue with him is a lack of talent around him, and that won't change next year.

When you look at his size, arm, and athleticism, he's right there with Stafford, if not ahead of him.
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:02 PM   #528
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Eh, I'm not sure how much one extra year of getting pounded at K-State is going to help his development. I think hooking up with a pro team and a good QB coach would do more for him. To me, the big issue with him is a lack of talent around him, and that won't change next year.

When you look at his size, arm, and athleticism, he's right there with Stafford, if not ahead of him.
Dude, the bust rate of juniors who declare who don't have the greatest history of decision making is catastrophically high.

Alex Smith, Vince Young, Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, and Rex Grossman are just a few off the top of my head.
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Old 10-26-2008, 03:06 PM   #529
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Dude, the bust rate of juniors who declare who don't have the greatest history of decision making is catastrophically high.

Alex Smith, Vince Young, Ryan Leaf, JaMarcus Russell, Tim Couch, and Rex Grossman are just a few off the top of my head.
So why should Stafford declare? For that matter, why should Sanchez or Bradford?

I know what others have done, but that has no bearing on what Freeman will do. You can't teach his tools, and maybe he's ready to start his career. Anyways, my point is not to argue about whether he should or should not come out; my point is to bring his name into the discussion of QBs we should look at/dream on.
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Some people might argue that Matt Stafford doesnt have the greatest decision making ability.
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So why should Stafford declare? For that matter, why should Sanchez or Bradford?

I know what others have done, but that has no bearing on what Freeman will do. You can't teach his tools, and maybe he's ready to start his career. Anyways, my point is to argue about whether he should or should not come out; my point is to bring his name into the discussion of QBs we should look at/dream on.
Well, Sanchez and Stafford should declare because they've shown good decision making and have elevated the play of their teammates (this is far more on Stafford).
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Some people might argue that Matt Stafford doesnt have the greatest decision making ability.
And those people probably just look at his lines. Look at what he did to LSU yesterday.

Recognized the blitz, audibled out, and put the ball in a tight spot.

You're gonna throw more picks when your receivers aren't Sam Bradford-level open, but Freeman has made some really boneheaded mistakes. The Louisville game comes to mind.
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Some people might argue that Matt Stafford doesnt have the greatest decision making ability.
Some might argue if you want to win the game with bad WR's and a bad Oline then you have to try and make plays. Some people might argue that the situation he is in better prepares him to play in the NFL.
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Im way to lazy to read the whole thread but... I am all for Graham Harrell. The guy is talented and a good decision maker.
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Im way to lazy to read the whole thread but... I am all for Graham Harrell. The guy is talented and a good decision maker.
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And those people probably just look at his lines. Look at what he did to LSU yesterday.

Recognized the blitz, audibled out, and put the ball in a tight spot.

You're gonna throw more picks when your receivers aren't Sam Bradford-level open, but Freeman has made some really boneheaded mistakes. The Louisville game comes to mind.
Oh dont get me wrong. He looked great against LSU. But he does throw into double coverage. He did it a couple of times against Bama and again yesterday against LSU. At the next level those balls gets picked.
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We obviously don't need a QB anymore, guys.
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Im way to lazy to read the whole thread but... I am all for Graham Harrell. The guy is talented and a good decision maker.
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Well, Sanchez and Stafford should declare because they've shown good decision making and have elevated the play of their teammates (this is far more on Stafford).
I'd love to see your argument that proves how Stafford has shown such amazing decision making, while Freeman has not.

Both players have similar completion %, YPA, TD/INT ratios, etc. Both players play in pro-style offenses. One guy has awful talent around him, the other has above-average surrounding talent. Using stats for this argument is not ideal, but that stats certainly don't hurt Freeman in this case.
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Oh dont get me wrong. He looked great against LSU. But he does throw into double coverage. He did it a couple of times against Bama and again yesterday against LSU. At the next level those balls gets picked.
He's by no means Peyton Manning at this point, but there is a demonstrable difference in his development opposed to Josh Freeman.

Freeman reminds me of Jason Campbell. Stafford reminds me of Jay Cutler.
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