This PC Sensitivity Crap is Getting WAY Out of Hand

[Silock]

Lawmaker Under Fire For 'Illegal Alien' E-Mail
Man Apologizes; Some Colleagues Not Satisfied

A state lawmaker is coming under fire for sending what he thought was a funny e-mail message to his colleagues.

Some people do not find it very amusing and want him to make a public apology.

Rep. Don Brown, R-DeFuniak Springs, sent a message from his state e-mail account that said, "Don't forget to pay your taxes - 12 million illegal aliens are depending on you!"

Brown said the message was intended to be humorous and to remind people about the upcoming tax deadline.

He apologized and said as far as he's concerned, he's done with the issue.

But members of the Florida Hispanic Legislative Caucus are taking exception to Brown's e-mail, calling it inappropriate and saying such e-mails have no place in the Florida House.

"That term, illegal alien, is extremely insulting to many individuals and I think there has to be something a little bit more public and a little bit more contrite in his apology," an unidentified member of the caucus said.

Watch Local 6 News for more on this story.

http://www.local6.com/news/11856683/detail.html
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WHAT ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO CALL THEM!? Citizen-ly-challenged???

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Silock

LOL WHAT?

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I just get all worked up about this issue.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Donger

They honestly want to come here and contribute to our society. Is it really dishonest to break an immoral law? Anyone and everyone should be able to come to this great country, green card or no.

You don't get to decide that you can break a law because you disagree with it. In this country if we don't agree with a law we work to change it but in the meantime we must obey and uphold that law.
What do you tell all the people who enter legally and go through the proper channels? That all their efforts are worthless, that someone can have the same thing they worked so hard for without paying for it?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Donger

Sorry, that was uncalled for. I just get all worked up about this issue.

No problem. The point is that it isn't only latinos that are "aliens." There are also german aliens that are here illegally, indian (dot, not feather) aliens that are here illegally, canadian aliens that are here illegally.

All are illegal aliens, by definition. It has nothing to do with race.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You don't get to decide that you can break a law because you disagree with it. In this country if we don't agree with a law we work to change it but in the meantime we must obey and uphold that law.

Exactly. A judge might disagree with a law, but that doesn't mean he can find someone not guilty of a crime because of his personal feelings on the matter (at least, not without serious consequences). There are rules.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by vailpass

You don't get to decide that you can break a law because you disagree with it. In this country if we don't agree with a law we work to change it but in the meantime we must obey and uphold that law.

Actually, you can. You just have to live with the consequences of breaking that law. Migrant guest workers live with that hanging over their heads every second of every day.

Originally Posted by vailpass

What do you tell all the people who enter legally and go through the proper channels? That all their efforts are worthless, that someone can have the same thing they worked so hard for without paying for it?

I don't know: "Sucks to be you."?

[ChiefFan31]

It's that attitude that contributes to the Growing, Inflamed, Itchy, Politically Correct Vagina that grows in this country.

We should apologize to them and allow them to continue to not pay taxes, leech off of the system of those that do, and also apologize for not learning to how to speak Spanish.

[vailpass]

Originally Posted by Donger

Actually, you can. You just have to live with the consequences of breaking that law. Migrant guest workers live with that hanging over their heads every second of every day.



I don't know: "Sucks to be you."?

Yes, and when you make the decision to break that law you are acting illegally and are therefore rightfully called Illegal Alien.

"Sucks to be you"? I wish the pro-illegal crowd would use that argument; we would be rid of them PDQ when the American public got wind of it.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Silock

No problem. The point is that it isn't only latinos that are "aliens." There are also german aliens that are here illegally, indian (dot, not feather) aliens that are here illegally, canadian aliens that are here illegally.

All are illegal aliens, by definition. It has nothing to do with race.

Would you please refer to them as "migrant guest workers" please?

[Donger]

Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes, and when you make the decision to break that law you are acting illegally and are therefore rightfully called Illegal Alien.

How about "non-legally participating migrant guest worker?"

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Donger

Would you please refer to them as "migrant guest workers" please?

I'm curious as to why I should.

How are they, in any way, "guests" if they're coming here illegally?

Guest workers are approved foreign workers on a temporary or permanent basis here to fill jobs essential to the U.S. economy, according to the Department of Labor.

[KC Dan]

Originally Posted by Donger

I'm not sure what you mean.

What I mean is that every civilized country in this world has some sort of legal methodology to enter and become a citizen. The law applies to all who enter the US and want to become a citizen. It is not just in place for Mexicans. It applies to all. If an immigrant wants to enter the US and become a citizen, there is a method to do so.

I want it to be somewhat difficult for an immigrant to enter this country and become a citizen because I want to be damn sure that undesirables (criminals, terrorists, spies, ect...) do not enter the US. Now, if that is tooooo difficult for someone and they want to enter illegally, then they have taken on the responsibility for their action as far as I am concerned. And, if that means deportation - hasta la vista, sayonara, bye-bye. This nation is a nation of laws and if someone entering does not respect our laws upon entry, what do you think the odds are that they are going to respect our laws while they are here.

Btw, I call them illegal immigrants but I have no problem calling them aliens because THEY ARE ALIEN to our country not being a citizen.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Silock

I'm curious as to why I should.

How are they, in any way, "guests" if they're coming here illegally?

Guest workers are approved foreign workers on a temporary or permanent basis here to fill jobs essential to the U.S. economy, according to the Department of Labor.

Because they are guests. We actually DO want them, but as long as it's on our terms.

[Silock]

Just to clarify:

il·le·gal /ɪˈligəl/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[i-lee-guhl] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adjective
1. forbidden by law or statute.
2. contrary to or forbidden by official rules, regulations, etc.: The referee ruled that it was an illegal forward pass.
–noun
3. Informal. illegal alien.
[Origin: 1620–30; < ML illégālis. See il-2, legal]

—Related forms
il·le·gal·ly, adverb

—Synonyms 1. unlawful; illegitimate; illicit; unlicensed. Illegal, unlawful, illegitimate, illicit, criminal can all describe actions not in accord with law. Illegal refers most specifically to violations of statutes or, in organized athletics, codified rules: an illegal seizure of property; an illegal block (in football). Unlawful means not sanctioned by or according to law: an unlawful claim to the inheritance; to take unlawful advantage of the trading situation. Illegitimate means lacking legal or traditional right or rights: an illegitimate child; illegitimate use of privileged knowledge. Illicit, which originally meant simply “not permitted,” now most often applies to matters regulated by law with specific emphasis on the way things are carried out: illicit conversion of property; an illicit attempt to control the market. Criminal most often refers to violation of the statutes of penal as opposed to civil law. All felonies are criminal as are all crimes sometimes punishable by death such as murder, arson, and kidnapping: a criminal act.



al·ien /ˈeɪlyən, ˈeɪliən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun
1. a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).
2. a foreigner.
3. a person who has been estranged or excluded.
4. a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.
–adjective
5. residing under a government or in a country other than that of one's birth without having or obtaining the status of citizenship there.
6. belonging or relating to aliens: alien property.
7. unlike one's own; strange; not belonging to one: alien speech.
8. adverse; hostile; opposed (usually fol. by to or from): ideas alien to modern thinking.
9. extraterrestrial.
[Origin: 1300–50; ME < MF < L aliénus, equiv. to *alies- (ali-, base of alius other + -es- n. suffix) + -nus adj. suffix]

—Synonyms 1. immigrant. 2. See stranger. 3. outcast. 7. exotic, foreign.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by KC Dan

What I mean is that every civilized country in this world has some sort of legal methodology to enter and become a citizen. The law applies to all who enter the US and want to become a citizen. It is not just in place for Mexicans. It applies to all. If an immigrant wants to enter the US and become a citizen, there is a method to do so.

I want it to be somewhat difficult for an immigrant to enter this country and become a citizen because I want to be damn sure that undesirables (criminals, terrorists, spies, ect...) do not enter the US. Now, if that is tooooo difficult for someone and they want to enter illegally, then they have taken on the responsibility for their action as far as I am concerned. And, if that means deportation - hasta la vista, sayonara, bye-bye. This nation is a nation of laws and if someone entering does not respect our laws upon entry, what do you think the odds are that they are going to respect our laws while they are here.

Btw, I call them illegal immigrants but I have no problem calling them aliens because THEY ARE ALIEN to our country not being a citizen.

What about the "legal aliens?" How do you feel about them?

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Donger

Because they are guests. We actually DO want them, but as long as it's on our terms.

They're not guests unless they're invited or approved.

Again, I think you're making a racial issue out of something that isn't a racial issue at all. Asians can be illegal aliens just as much as any latino, but somehow, latinos think they "own" the issue of immigration.