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Old 05-13-2008, 12:23 PM  
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OK Mr. Croyle, I've defended loyally on this forum.
It's time for you to reward me and the the rest of your defenders. I'm looking forward to reading a piece on the Star about how you have dedicated this off-season to gaining 10-15 pounds of muscle. I hope you haven't forgotten that as a necessary step for your career and gaining respect of the fans and your teammates.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:34 AM   #46
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I cannot remember a previous Third Round pick ever "deserving" so much time, patience and opportunity.

I'm tired of the readymade excuses for Brodie Croyle as well.
Last I checked, 3rd was one of the top rounds.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:59 AM   #47
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Last I checked, 3rd was one of the top rounds.
Teams don't commit as much time, patience, and opportunity to Third Round picks as some Chiefs fans would like to give Croyle.

No Third Round pick taken this year will be afforded the kind of coddling people in Chiefs kingdom are calling for as it relates to Croyle. They'll have to earn that time, patience, and opportunity.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:07 PM   #48
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Teams don't commit as much time, patience, and opportunity to Third Round picks as some Chiefs fans would like to give Croyle.

No Third Round pick taken this year will be afforded the kind of coddling people in Chiefs kingdom are calling for as it relates to Croyle. They'll have to earn that time, patience, and opportunity.
So you think Croyle has already been given all opportunities to succeed. Most of the rest of us don't.
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Old 05-14-2008, 12:09 PM   #49
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Teams don't commit as much time, patience, and opportunity to Third Round picks as some Chiefs fans would like to give Croyle.

No Third Round pick taken this year will be afforded the kind of coddling people in Chiefs kingdom are calling for as it relates to Croyle. They'll have to earn that time, patience, and opportunity.
Quarterback is a little different position than the rest. I think you have to give them more time than any other position on the field. It doenst matter what round they were drafted in.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:40 PM   #50
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Teams don't commit as much time, patience, and opportunity to Third Round picks as some Chiefs fans would like to give Croyle.

No Third Round pick taken this year will be afforded the kind of coddling people in Chiefs kingdom are calling for as it relates to Croyle. They'll have to earn that time, patience, and opportunity.
Well who the **** else are we going to turn to? Tyler Thigpen? If he beats out Croyle then sure but I doubt that happens. It's not like we have another option. And don't even suggest Damon Huard because that is an absolute waste of time.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:51 PM   #51
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So you think Croyle has already been given all opportunities to succeed. Most of the rest of us don't.
I believe he was given ample opportunity...
And he didn't answer the bell.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:52 PM   #52
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Quarterback is a little different position than the rest.
Not where it concerns 3rd Round picks.

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I think you have to give them more time than any other position on the field. It doenst matter what round they were drafted in.
Late Round QB's aren't afforded the same kind of patience that the Eli Manning's of the world enjoy. Not at least without having shown some glimmer of hope that they can be the guy.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:52 PM   #53
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I believe he was given ample opportunity...
And he didn't answer the bell.
You guys are so full of shit. From the other thread.

All this "croyle can't win" is bogus. If you claim to be able to know by now, you are ignorant as hell, and I blame you for our consistent one-and-outs in the playoffs.

AN ACTUAL VALID STATISTICAL COMPARISON:

CROYLE:
Comp%: 58.1
TDS: 6
INTS: 6
YDS: 1227
RTG: 69.9
W-L: 0-6

Elway:
Comp%: 47.5
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 55.7

Aikman:
Comp%: 52.9
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 52.9
W-L: 4-7

Manning:
Comp%: 56.7
TDS: 26
INTS: 28
YDS: 3739
RTG: 71.2
W-L: 3-13

Point being, Croyle is as good statistically as any one of those guys in their first major year. An additional interesting note: in games in which Elway did not play, the broncos were 4-0. You all who claim Croyle is a bust CAN'T KNOW YET. If you knew and were making the personnel decisions for these three teams, the NFL would be out of 3 HoF QBs.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:54 PM   #54
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Well who the **** else are we going to turn to?
Perhaps no one, but that's no reason to gift-wrap the job (again).

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And don't even suggest Damon Huard because that is an absolute waste of time.
If Croyle or Thigpen can't win the job outright we'll have to find another QB next year anyway. So honestly... Under that scenario it wouldn't bother me one bit if Huard took the field.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:55 PM   #55
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I believe he was given ample opportunity...
And he didn't answer the bell.
No offense, but I think you personally don't like him.

He has not been given enough time or help to improve.

Can you please give me an example of a QB excelling at his age with comperable playing time, and surounding talent.

Yes, he should win games all by himself.........one day.
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Old 05-14-2008, 01:57 PM   #56
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You guys are so full of shit. From the other thread.

All this "croyle can't win" is bogus. If you claim to be able to know by now, you are ignorant as hell, and I blame you for our consistent one-and-outs in the playoffs.

AN ACTUAL VALID STATISTICAL COMPARISON:

CROYLE:
Comp%: 58.1
TDS: 6
INTS: 6
YDS: 1227
RTG: 69.9
W-L: 0-6

Elway:
Comp%: 47.5
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 55.7

Aikman:
Comp%: 52.9
TDS: 9
INTS: 18
YDS: 1749
RTG: 52.9
W-L: 4-7

Manning:
Comp%: 56.7
TDS: 26
INTS: 28
YDS: 3739
RTG: 71.2
W-L: 3-13

Point being, Croyle is as good statistically as any one of those guys in their first major year. An additional interesting note: in games in which Elway did not play, the broncos were 4-0. You all who claim Croyle is a bust CAN'T KNOW YET. If you knew and were making the personnel decisions for these three teams, the NFL would be out of 3 HoF QBs.
You CAN'T argue with that.
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:02 PM   #57
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I believe he was given ample opportunity...
And he didn't answer the bell.
Did the opportunity involve putting an offensive line in front of her that could block my mother and two of her friends?
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Old 05-14-2008, 02:02 PM   #58
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Like it or not, he'll be the starting QB for the KC Chiefs in 08...i cant wait to see you make all of the doubters eat runny scat.
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No offense, but I think you personally don't like him.
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When comparing those statistics, I wonder if those other guys were allowed to throw a pass longer than 4 yards? A factor like that could have a bearing on both interceptions and completion percentage.

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