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Old 01-24-2009, 12:58 PM  
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If not Shanahan..

... then it might really be the case that Todd Haley is the candidate Pioli is focusing on. With that in mind, somebody posted this article/editorial on another Chiefs forum which I found kind of interesting:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1...th-kansas-city

Ten Reasons Kurt Warner Will Sign with Kansas City


The Kansas City Chiefs fired coach Herm Edwards after posting a 15-34 record in three seasons, including 2-14 this season. Since the hiring of Scott Pioli as general manager, it has been rumored that changes within the organization will occur. Former Denver Broncos coach Mike Shanahan's name continues to surface as a possibility of becoming the next head coach; however, it remains unlikely Shanahan will be coaching in Kansas City next season.

After the Super Bowl, the Chiefs will seek permission to talk with Arizona offensive coordinator Todd Haley regarding the vacant coaching position. Haley's stock has flourished in conjunction with the Cardinals run through the NFC playoffs and the team's first ever Super Bowl appearance. Both Haley and Pioli have one major connection: Bill Parcells.

Only three NFL franchises have posted worse records than the Chiefs in the past three years; Detroit, Oakland and St. Louis. Kansas City has traditionally been a winning franchise until recently. Since the Chiefs play in a weak AFC West division, the possibility of turning the franchise around in a shorter period of time increases.

If the Chiefs decide to hire Haley as head coach, he will bring the explosive passing offense from Arizona to Kansas City. Haley needs a gunslinger for a quarterback and balance at the wide receiver position to be successful.

Mel Kiper has posted his 2009 mock NFL draft on espn.com. Right now, Kiper has the Chiefs selecting USC quarterback Matt Sanchez at No. 3. Kansas City does need to upgrade the quarterback position, but Kiper based this selection on Edwards still being coach.

The hiring of Haley will probably lead the team to select Texas Tech WR Michael Crabtree with the No. 3 pick. Realistically, Haley wants a quick turnaround with the franchise and drafting a QB will slow him down. Crabtree provides Haley with a balanced wide receiver attack, similar to Larry Fitzgerald and Anquin Boldin in Arizona, with Dwayne Bowe and future hall-of-fame TE Tony Gonzalez.

The Chiefs already have RB Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles in place. Ultimately, Haley will be seeking a free-agent quarterback. If Kansas City does hire Haley as head coach, the following 10 reasons represent why Kurt Warner will be the Kansas City Chiefs quarterback next season:

1. Haley is head coach

2. Warner has familiarity with Haley's offensive system

3. Warner is an unrestricted free-agent

4. Economic decision by Arizona Cardinals. Matt Leinart was No. 10 pick in 2006 NFL Draft and makes a substantial amount of money as a back-up. Can't keep him on the bench much longer.

5. At 37, seeking a potential two-year deal to finish career

6. Guarantee starting quarterback job

7. Gets to throw to Bowe, Crabtree and Gonzalez

8. Play in a weak AFC West division

9. Opportunity to play in the Midwest (originally from Cedar Rapids, Iowa)

10. Irony. Began NFL career in Missouri (St. Louis); will end NFL career in Missouri (Kansas City)


If that turns out to be true, do you think the Chiefs will go after someone like Harrell or Freeman as a 2 year grooming project? I guess I will be watching the Senior Bowl today with the extra incentive of watching Harrell and the rest of the Senior QBs.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:25 PM   #46
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As much as I hate this possibility... I wouldn't rule out Pioli going for a vet QB. Parcells obviously loves his QB to be a vet and I think Billichick has always used one too until injury and winning the lottery with Brady. Don't even bring up Cassel, any QB can succeed in that situation the Pats have now.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:32 PM   #47
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As much as I hate this possibility... I wouldn't rule out Pioli going for a vet QB. Parcells obviously loves his QB to be a vet and I think Billichick has always used one too until injury and winning the lottery with Brady. Don't even bring up Cassel, any QB can succeed in that situation the Pats have now.
No, not "any QB" can succeed in that situation.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:33 PM   #48
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Not to mention Atlanta. We had two teams who picked in the top three of the draft who made the playoffs.
A pass rush, and a LB or two could dramatically impact our D, and couple good O-linemen could have us putting 21 on the board about every week. Will those additions alone get our boys a ring....No, but with the cap space we have, and Scot fuqin Pioli determining our needs, and filling them, we will scare some teams in 2010.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:35 PM   #49
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No, not "any QB" can succeed in that situation.
Almost any NFL backup could. Besides Cassel was just the backup to a now veteran Brady. Its pretty common for the backup to be young unless the starter is young... even then the backup is still young sometimes.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:51 PM   #50
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A pass rush, and a LB or two could dramatically impact our D, and couple good O-linemen could have us putting 21 on the board about every week. Will those additions alone get our boys a ring....No, but with the cap space we have, and Scot fuqin Pioli determining our needs, and filling them, we will scare some teams in 2010.
Add to that we don't want to expose our young guys to an extended culture of losing. We need to do something to at least win 8 or 9 games next year. Not as a blue print of the future, but as a step on the way up.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:54 PM   #51
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Add to that we don't want to expose our young guys to an extended culture of losing. We need to do something to at least win 8 or 9 games next year. Not as a blue print of the future, but as a step on the way up.
That is contradictory to everything Scott has said so far. We're not getting quick fixes here, and I for one am glad of it.
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Old 01-24-2009, 02:58 PM   #52
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That is contradictory to everything Scott has said so far. We're not getting quick fixes here, and I for one am glad of it.
Obviously it's his decision, not mine, but I still think we should not extend the losing habit. Sometimes that becomes too hard to exorcize out of young players.
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Old 01-24-2009, 03:00 PM   #53
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We couldn't compete next year if God was the head coach, Christ was the OC, the devil at DC and mother mary the trainer.
I disagree. A good coach, with the help of a good GM (Pioli) can turn this around fast. A couple of quality free agents, some good game day coaching, and we aren't far away. We were competitive in most of our losses this season. And being in a weak division helps us too.
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This dumbass author makes the assumption our new head coach will be the one in charge of personnel decisions.

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Obviously it's his decision, not mine, but I still think we should not extend the losing habit. Sometimes that becomes too hard to exorcize out of young players.

We'll get 500, and that should be more than enough to get the young guys jazzed for 2010.
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The Chiefs already have RB Larry Johnson and Jamaal Charles in place. Ultimately, Haley will be seeking a free-agent quarterback.


This is some shitty ass reasoning if I ever saw it.
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I disagree. A good coach, with the help of a good GM (Pioli) can turn this around fast. A couple of quality free agents, some good game day coaching, and we aren't far away. We were competitive in most of our losses this season. And being in a weak division helps us too.
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