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Old 04-25-2010, 08:04 AM  
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Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+
I was pretty down on this draft outside of Berry but maybe I am just stupid.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcont...s.3f4b050.html

KANSAS CITY CHIEFS GRADE: A+
The Chiefs drafted the NFL defensive rookie of the year in Berry – and a slew of other good players. Arenas was the best returner in the draft, and McCluster will give the AFC matchup problems at both running back and receiver.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:33 PM   #616
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Wrong, Frank.

His injury concerns weren't known to FANS until right before the draft.

And every report I read is that only ONE team believes he needs microfracture surgery.

Kindle missed how many games in college? Moeaki?
Some interesting notes:
http://www.boston.com/sports/footbal...w_the_tro.html
Is he narcoleptic and have ADHD?

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sp...sergio-kindle/
This seems to be the main source. Who knows how much truth there is to it, but it's out there.

Then, I'm sure people don't want to hear this, but there's the character issue. DWI. And he drove into a building while texting. So does he have a real good head on his shoulders? Who knows.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:33 PM   #617
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what board?

the same board that hamas took Clausen at #1 and Campbell ahead of Anthony Davis in the 1st round!

If that board is what you're talking about...I don't want it anywhere near the Chiefs war room on draft day.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:34 PM   #618
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Kindle would have been a high second round pick. At least one team thinks Kindle will need micro fracture surgery. That could end his career. Kindle also has a maturity issue.

Now, without the knee problems, I would have been for taking him despite the maturity concerns. I think he is a young kid and he will mature.

But, Moeaki does not have an injury that threatens his career. Do you see the difference? Yes, he has been banged up, so maybe you get 10 games a season out of him.... but he isn't facing a problem that could end his career.
If more than ONE team thought it was serious, I'd side with you.

I wouldn't be shocked if we're the team that red-flagged him
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:34 PM   #619
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But we could do a poll that featured me versus luv and I would lose...and that slut didn't even know what a safety was 6 months ago...
Hey if you can quote your own posts and act like they go ignored, so can I!

Not going to respond to this one, eh?
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:35 PM   #620
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I love how people are just focusing on the mocks, and not on the Top 100 lists, which in Gosselin's case, is compiled by speaking to each team and getting their thoughts on these players.

If Rick Gosselin has Javier Arenas as the 64th best player, it's because his research - with the teams themselves as the primary source - believe him to be the 64th best player.
And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.
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Old 04-25-2010, 09:35 PM   #621
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Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.
But you know exactly what's been missing there: QB. And they've also done a terrible job trying to acquire a legit #1 WR.

Mason is money for a ton of receptions--much appreciated in PPR leagues--but he's not a game changer.

With Boldin and, I believe, an ascending Flacco, Baltimore is going to be a really solid team.
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If more than ONE team thought it was serious, I'd side with you.

I wouldn't be shocked if we're the team that red-flagged him
More than one team thought it was serious, hence why he fell in the draft.
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I think that Pittsburgh fans would disagree, considering the fact that their offensive line is in shambles, their ILB's have sucked ass for a while (and have been covered by their OLB's), they've taken receiver after receiver after receiver trying to fill a void and when they finally did, they traded him for a 5th.

This year, Pittsburgh took THREE ILB's and two offensive lineman. Urbik from last year has been awful.

As for Indy, Ugoh was a disaster. It's really difficult to say if Peyton Manning is the reason for their offensive success or not. I guarantee that if Garcon, Collier and company played for the Chiefs in 2009, their numbers wouldn't be even close to what they've been.

Baltimore wins the draft every year at this point in time, yet hasn't been to the Super Bowl since after the 1999 season.

Something's amiss with their evaluation process.
You act as if there aren't 31 other teams trying to get to the SB as well.

You really want to use SB appearances as a knock on their drafting?

I'll remember that when we don't make the playoffs, much less the SB under Scott Pioli.
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It's awesome...

He's using Gosselin (who gave us an A+ for our draft) as a source for why our draft sucked.
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Baltimore drafts well because they take the obvious pick, big name guy falls, he pretty much always ends up a Raven. Their team comes up you go, hrm who's the best player left here? Baltimore takes him...

There's something to be said for being smart enough to just take the obvious pick instead of drafting bumble**** mcleadership from slapdick U because you must show how brilliant you are or value things that aren't talent.
And when was the last time that this amazing drafting led to an AFC Championship, let alone a Super Bowl?
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That's an arguable point, what I'm saying is you never see Baltimore make picks like Tyson Alualu or see them take some guy in the 3rd round that everyone goes "uh who?"
Which is probably why the won the Super Bowl with Trent Dilfer, yet haven't been able to get there in 11 years.

No "outside the box" thinking.
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More than one team thought it was serious, hence why he fell in the draft.
Does every team in the league NEED a OLB?

He fell approximately 10 spots. Did he fit the needs of any of those teams?

Do any of those teams even play a 34?
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It's awesome...

He's using Gosselin (who gave us an A+ for our draft) as a source for why our draft sucked.
No, I'm not, you ****ing POS. Learn to read.

Not only are you a coward, you're a ****ing troll.
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This shit gets stupider every year, as more and more people think they should be GMs because they're good at Madden or fantasy football.
The people who have been questioning this teams personnel decisions the last several years are wrong? 10 wins in 3 seasons and those griping are the ones not in touch with reality?
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dude...those guys LOVED the Bengals draft last year because the Bengals basically signed on to ChiefsPlanet and made their picks...

so far they basically ended up with one good two down player (Maualuga) and a KR...

Oh man I'm so jealous.
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