Rick Gosselin draft grade: Chiefs get A+

[OnTheWarpath15]

I love how people are just focusing on the mocks, and not on the Top 100 lists, which in Gosselin's case, is compiled by speaking to each team and getting their thoughts on these players.

If Rick Gosselin has Javier Arenas as the 64th best player, it's because his research - with the teams themselves as the primary source - believe him to be the 64th best player.

[The Bad Guy]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I love how people are just focusing on the mocks, and not on the Top 100 lists, which in Gosselin's case, is compiled by speaking to each team and getting their thoughts on these players.

If Rick Gosselin has Javier Arenas as the 64th best player, it's because his research - with the teams themselves as the primary source - believe him to be the 64th best player.

So what you're telling me is that Gosselin can't possibly watch college football tape consistently enough to form his top 100? His final draft is what he has heard from evaluators about what will happen. His first mock is based on his rankings for players.

So if we are calling Arenas the 64th best player in the draft, are we now calling Moeaki the 48th? Does that mean he was a steal in the 3rd?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I love how people are just focusing on the mocks, and not on the Top 100 lists, which in Gosselin's case, is compiled by speaking to each team and getting their thoughts on these players.

If Rick Gosselin has Javier Arenas as the 64th best player, it's because his research - with the teams themselves as the primary source - believe him to be the 64th best player.

There are several people in this thread that said Gosselin draft grade was complete shit. Do you agree or disagree with his grades?

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I love how people are just focusing on the mocks, and not on the Top 100 lists, which in Gosselin's case, is compiled by speaking to each team and getting their thoughts on these players.

If Rick Gosselin has Javier Arenas as the 64th best player, it's because his research - with the teams themselves as the primary source - believe him to be the 64th best player.

And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

Oh, ok.

Damnit!

What a shitty draft we had! Only columnists like our draft...****! If only we hired Mecca/OTWP and Hamas Jenkins to do our drafts for us!

[-King-]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

Oh, ok.

Damnit!

What a shitty draft we had! Only columnists like our draft...****! If only we hired Mecca/OTWP and Hamas Jenkins to do our drafts for us!

Looking at Hamas' 2009 CP mock draft picks, I have to say that he severely overestimates his draft knowledge.
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[Hootie]

Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Looking at Hamas' 2009 CP mock draft picks, I have to say that he severely overestimates his draft knowledge.
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linkage?

[-King-]

Originally Posted by The Meat Dragon

linkage?

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showthread.php?t=203486
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[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Gosselin is not a scout. He doesn't form his 100 list on his opinion, but the research he gathers from each team.

Saying Rick Gosselin likes our draft is like saying any other columnist likes our draft.

Given that he talks to so many teams, and knows much of what they think of players. His grade of our draft is based on that... not his own scouting.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

And yet.... he loves the Chiefs's draft. Odd.

McCluster wasn't a reach. The funny part is that you really gripe about Moeaki.... yet.... he was like #48 on Gosselin's top 100. You should be ecstatic that the Chiefs got such 'value'.

McCluster was going to be taken with the next pick. He wasn't a reach at all. And, after what Devon Hester did.... gifted returners don't last past the second round either.

Nearly everyone not on this board loves this draft....odd how so many national writers can be so wrong.... I guess they just don't have your 'vast' knowlege.

You know I want to elaborate on this statement you just made.

I had this thought the other day, and said to myself why draft a guy like Arenas in the 2nd round? When a lot of people would say you could have him in the 5th or 6th?

10 years ago I would agree you don't select a returner in the 2nd round because you could easily find those guys in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds. But I think in todays NFL more teams are emphasizing and focusing on the kick return positon than ever before. With that being said, it forces the teams hands by taking them sooner rather than later because they just don't last to the later rounds anymore.

[SenselessChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by RedThat

You know I want to elaborate on this statement you just made.

I had this thought the other day, and said to myself why draft a guy like Arenas in the 2nd round? When a lot of people would say you could have him in the 5th or 6th?

10 years ago I would agree you don't select a returner in the 2nd round because you could easily find those guys in the 5th, 6th or 7th rounds. But I think in todays NFL more teams are emphasizing and focusing on the kick return positon than ever before. With that being said, it forces the teams hands by taking them sooner rather than later because they just don't last to the later rounds anymore.

I understand where OTW is coming from on this. But, these were special talents with good character. The only other guys left were either guys with question marks or average good character kids.

While these may look like luxury picks... they are guys that are special. Not just bodies to fill the roster and guys that make an impact as soon as they get on the field.

I think the Chiefs played the draft perfectly.

[RedThat]

Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

I understand where OTW is coming from on this. But, these were special talents with good character. The only other guys left were either guys with question marks or average good character kids.

While these may look like luxury picks... they are guys that are special. Not just bodies to fill the roster and guys that make an impact as soon as they get on the field.

I think the Chiefs played the draft perfectly.

Me too. I must admit I like what Scott Pioli is doing.

I think he is focusing towards building a better culture in the locker room and at the same time he is adding players with playmaking ability. Thats impressive right there.

*As far as the luxury picks go, I don't exactly think of those picks as luxury picks mainly because I feel both McCluster and Arenas will provide versatility to this team and will improve this team in more ways than one.