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Old 10-30-2010, 03:52 PM  
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Flowers and Hali in the running for PFF Defensive Player of the Year
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2. Tamba Hali (Chiefs, +25.1)
Perhaps the best pure pass rusher in the league this year. League-leading 43 total quarterback pressures, and without a single penalty. He’s not as great in run support, but he’s good enough.

3. Brandon Flowers (Chiefs, +15.8)
So he hasn’t got an island named after himself yet, but Flowers just keeps on making plays. Yet to allow a touchdown with only 39% of passes his way completed, and has a personal passer rating against of 28.8. In 41 targets, he’s only allowed one pass of 20+ yards. Stellar.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:10 PM   #61
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:12 PM   #62
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The thing is that Turk is faster, stronger, and quicker.

He's learning on the job, and as you said, he has a higher ceiling.

With good coaching (I know, good luck with that on this team), he could probably be a 7-8 sack player, and he's much better as a run defender.

Hali is decent depth when we get a real RDE.
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This team will be better when they can get another starter at RDE, and let Hali settle in as the #3 DE in a rotation.

I think Turk has a much higher ceiling as the starter at LDE than Tamba.
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Hali is what he is.

He's a solid, unspectacular, LDE, who is better suited as a rotational type player.
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Tamba Hali at OLB si going to be about every bit as successful as his move to RDE was last year.
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The guy is slow and lacks athleticism.

There's no way in hell he has the tools to play OLB in any scheme.
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He may be built for it, but he lacks the speed for it.

Hali has no place in a 34.
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The issues that many of us are discussing with Hali have very little to do with learning the position.

They have to do with the physical shortcomings that aren't fixable.

He's too slow and too unathletic to compete and succeed.

It won't matter if he has 2 games, 6 games, or 60 games.

Those are not correctable issues.
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Hali was better than expected, but he has a long way to go, and Andy Studebaker looks quicker, faster, more athletic, and seems to have adjusted far more qucikly to the transiton from DE than Hali, not only outshining Hali as a pass rusher, but far more disciplined in run defense, and more fluid in dropping back in pass coverage, though there's still more work there.

I won't be the least bit surprised if he replaces Hali in the starting lineup by the start of the season.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:32 PM   #63
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Wow I had been giving milkman a pass but that last bolded comment kinda wipes that out.
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Research indicates OnTheWarPath58 is innocent.

The drafturbators are not completely defeated.

He is our last hope:

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Old 10-30-2010, 11:37 PM   #65
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Just to be fair, a lot of those comments by milk were when we were still a 4-3 and Hali was a total epic failure at RDE in a 4-3.

He salvaged that year in the half a year after they moved him back to LDE.
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:39 PM   #66
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Just to be fair, a lot of those comments by milk were when we were still a 4-3 and Hali was a total epic failure at RDE in a 4-3.

He salvaged that year in the half a year after they moved him back to LDE.
Shouldn't you be more concerned about your appendages?

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Dude, if Hali gets 11 sacks Ill cut off my arms with a pumpkin carver
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Old 10-30-2010, 11:45 PM   #67
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Research indicates OnTheWarPath58 is innocent.

The drafturbators are not completely defeated.

He is our last hope:
If Cassel ends up having a 25 TD 10 Int type season for 3500 yards the drafturbators will stab each other in the taint with screw drivers.......
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Casshole would have to average 246 yards passing the rest of the year to hit 3500.

Tall order.

Personally I'm waiting for the game where the wheels fall off and he tosses four picks. I know it's out there...somewhere...waiting to melt down the Planet.
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Casshole would have to average 246 yards passing the rest of the year to hit 3500.

Tall order.

Personally I'm waiting for the game where the wheels fall off and he tosses four picks. I know it's out there...somewhere...waiting to melt down the Planet.
Could be. He's also prolly going to have a 4 TD type game too, barring injury.
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my bad, I meant 11 sacks this year buddy.
Here was my next post...from a thread in 2009.

That was a pretty good visualization though.

Good thing he ended with 8.5!
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Wow. Just wow. I wonder what took me so long to open this thread. I've been ignoring it. I shouldn't have.
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Ahhhhh, GoChiefs, STOP. Please! You got me weak from laughing so hard! Epic, epic shit here and I don't even USE the word epic, EVER. Just grade-A shit right here.
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Good job for searching through all that shit. Alot of them big mouth ****ers like to think they know what they are talking about. Good ****ing ownage Clayton.

This thread needs to be stickied for the rest of the season. Hell, permanently. lol
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The absence of ANY of those turds is flat-out hilarious. This is a HOF thread at the Planet, and should be referenced every single f'ing time one of those idiots trys to tell ANYONE they know shit about football.

FWIW, I thought Milkman was by far the most tolerable of the bunch and generally not that much of a moron, but some of those comments on Hali hurt my brain. Some aren't that bad, but calling Turk ****ing McBride "bigger, faster, stronger"? That is worringly stupid, because I know the man's reasonably smart.
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If Cassel ends up having a 25 TD 10 Int type season for 3500 yards the drafturbators will stab each other in the taint with screw drivers.......
Which means he has to average 245 yards per game, which isn't going to happen.

And it's not just draftubators. Homers are the only ones right now that seems to think Cassel will turn things around. And even many of those people don't think he will. If Cassel starts playing consistently very well, then everyone will have been wrong.
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