Expectations for Fisher

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What do you want him to do? Cure cancer? There is only so much impact a tackle can have.

He needs to be better than Brandon Albert level.

Though I certainly take exception to the folks around here that are arguing that he can't be.

Albert was a technical wreck, we all realize that - right? I mean Albert's a good tackle, but he's in that 8-10 range with a lot of other good tackles.

Do people really not believe that Fisher is capable of being a hell of a lot better than that? There is literally no single area where Albert is physically a better prospect than Fisher. Albert managed to get by through some of the most unconventionally effective blocking you'll ever see. He's the Dominick Hasek of left-tackles; you would never teach anyone to do what he does.

And while that made him effective, it also limited his ceiling somewhat.

Fisher's is well beyond Albert's and I truly do believe Fisher will prove to be Albert's equal by mid-season.

Guys, Fisher is a really really good prospect. Someone please tell me what it is they see in this kid that makes them think that he's 3-4 years removed from being a top 10 LT in this league?

If he is, the pick is an unqualified failure. I don't think that will be the case.

[ChiefGator]

Tony Boselli good.

[ShortRoundChief]

I'm curious as to what expectations can be made?

It would seem logical that he starts game 1 and blocks well.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.

1) plow a hole for JC to tear through
2) keep Alex on his feet while in the pocket

[Deberg_1990]

Who has the longer arms?

Albert or Fisher?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Who has the longer arms?

Albert or Fisher?

Fisher by a hair under an inch; 34 1/2 to 33 5/8

Not an insignificant amount when looking for a LT, though not a deal-breaker kindof issue either. Fisher's are slightly above average, Albert's slightly below.

[mikey23545]

Some of you need to leaf through your Geno Smith scrapbooks and find your favorite photo of him, and beat off to it until you're spent.

Maybe you'll finally feel better, or at least surfeited.

[Imon Yourside]

I expect Fisher had better throw at least 3 TD's per game and avg about 250 yards as well.

[L.A. Chieffan]

Nobody even heard of this ****ing guy until right before the college season ended. I expect him to ****ing make blocks, big whoop

[L.A. Chieffan]

****ing Chippewas

[L.A. Chieffan]

Got their ass kicked by Ball ****ing State

[Imon Yourside]

Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Got their ass kicked by Ball ****ing State

That was the game that Fisher threw 3 picks wasn't it?

[L.A. Chieffan]

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN

That was the game that Fisher threw 3 picks wasn't it?

He did give up three ****ing sacks. Against Ball ****ing State. Von Miller is gonna rape him.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

He is, I agree.

But he's not great. His ceiling isn't great. Fisher's is.

You focus on Albert's quickness. Here's all I can do to highlight the difference in their respective athleticism:



Fisher is bigger, he's stronger, he's faster, he's quicker, he's more explosive. He is, across the board, a significantly better athlete than Brandon Albert. In many instances it isn't even a close question.

Fisher can truly be a Joe Thomas type of tackle. Now I will listen all day to people that want to debate the value of an elite LT in the modern NFL - it's a legitimate argument.

But this crybaby bullshit from folks that are moping about like there's no way Fisher can ever approach the performance that we got from Albert is just silly. Fisher can be, should be, and in my opinion will be a significantly better all-around LT than Brandon Albert.

I hope that isn't aimed at me. I said I anticipate he will be about like Albert.

He could be and should be. But so should a litany of other players that aren't. The incremental gain from Albert to Fisher can't be all that huge because Albert is pretty goddamned good.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

I hope that isn't aimed at me. I said I anticipate he will be about like Albert.

He could be and should be. But so should a litany of other players that aren't. The incremental gain from Albert to Fisher can't be all that huge because Albert is pretty goddamned good.

It really isn't, there have been a couple of other straight up eyerollingly weepy comments coming from folks that are just looking to hear themselves bitch.

But let me ask you - apart from simply being pessimistic, what do you actually see in Eric Fisher the prospect that tells you he won't be better than Albert? I feel like many people such as yourself are tempering their expectations because they feel like that's the thing to do; afterall, players can bust. But don't you need to at least have a justification as to why you believe they will other than "well it's the NFL"? What doesn't Eric Fisher have in a LT?

The only thing I can see is a long list of game-film showing him beating on superior opponents. But man, if you saw his Senior Bowl tape and weren't impressed by what he did to some damn highly regarded lineman, I suggest you just weren't paying attention.

As to your last point, you win football games in the margins. The jump from a 90 rated tackle to a 95 rated tackle may only seem like a slight gain, but with the level of play being so high in the NFL, the different between a good and great player is quite stark.

There can absolutely be a huge gain from Albert to Fisher. Fisher would have to be a great player, but there's nothing that suggests he can't be.