Expectations for Fisher

[O.city]

So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What do you want him to do? Cure cancer? There is only so much impact a tackle can have.

Jesus. Rationalizing the pick already?

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by O.city

Andy Reid is going to run all over teams and control the clock? Have you ever watched football before?

Charles had a Great year last year- and teams KNEW what was coming- we had ZERO passing game and some of the worst QB play of all time. Hell we tied a record for Not having a lead in a game most of the year. We ran our defense to death as well with Cashole coughing the ball up every other play.

If we get anything out of the TE position and Something out of Baldwin we should have a great offense this year- Light years better than last.

Jeez cheer up Chiefs fans- We have a great team this year!!

['Hamas' Jenkins]

Originally Posted by Fairplay

Hamas I know this draft sucks balls, but who should the Chiefs have selected with their first pick?

I really should just macro a response.

If they didn't want a QB, I thought the best player in the draft was Jarvis Jones.

Edit: There were close to ten player I would have been satisfied with.

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

Jesus. Rationalizing the pick already?

heh, no...just laughing at you guys who expect every top pick to be able to perform miracles.

If he helps turn the franchise around, but only becomes a good, but not transcendent player, he was still worth it. Examples: Drew Bledsoe, Kerry Collins

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

The only thing that could derail him is injuries.

I expect him to be at least as good as Albert, and thats good enough........to win a championship, as long as all the other pieces are in place

I'm not satisfied with that. If all he can be is Albert, WTF are we doing? You don't trade a good known player for an unknown (from Central Michigan no less) and 1.1. We would have been far better off to pay Albert and go fill some other hole if all we're going to end up with is Albert.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

What do you want him to do? Cure cancer? There is only so much impact a tackle can have.

He needs to be better than Brandon Albert level.

Though I certainly take exception to the folks around here that are arguing that he can't be.

Albert was a technical wreck, we all realize that - right? I mean Albert's a good tackle, but he's in that 8-10 range with a lot of other good tackles.

Do people really not believe that Fisher is capable of being a hell of a lot better than that? There is literally no single area where Albert is physically a better prospect than Fisher. Albert managed to get by through some of the most unconventionally effective blocking you'll ever see. He's the Dominick Hasek of left-tackles; you would never teach anyone to do what he does.

And while that made him effective, it also limited his ceiling somewhat.

Fisher's is well beyond Albert's and I truly do believe Fisher will prove to be Albert's equal by mid-season.

Guys, Fisher is a really really good prospect. Someone please tell me what it is they see in this kid that makes them think that he's 3-4 years removed from being a top 10 LT in this league?

If he is, the pick is an unqualified failure. I don't think that will be the case.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

heh, no...just laughing at you guys who expect every top pick to be able to perform miracles.

If he helps turn the franchise around, but only becomes a good, but not transcendent player, he was still worth it. Examples: Drew Bledsoe, Kerry Collins

So basically you just don't care how he does and you'll be happy regardless.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Oh c'mon - Fisher is going to be much quicker than Albert.

I think some folks are really understating Fisher's potential because they don't like that we went tackle.

He's a great athlete that has plus strength for his weight (as opposed to Joeckel, who's strength is below what someone with his size should be). He's going to add a little more bulk and probably play in the 315-325 range. And while I'm with Hamas in that I'm not sure I ever see that 'mean streak' so many talk about, he's simply an incredible athlete for someone his size and his body suggests that he will be damn strong as well.

Fisher has everything you'd want in a LT apart from the mammoth frame that Ogden had. In the end, it's neither impossible or unlikely that he could end up similar to Pace in terms of size and athleticism. Pace also had amazing technique and that will be what ultimately decides Fisher's fate. If he can develop the kind of technique that Pace had, he could approach that class of tackle.

Maybe I'm higher on Albert than you guys are, but Albert is pretty ****ing good.

[ChiefGator]

Tony Boselli good.

[ShortRoundChief]

I'm curious as to what expectations can be made?

It would seem logical that he starts game 1 and blocks well.

[King_Chief_Fan]

Originally Posted by O.city

So, we took the best LT available in the entire draft. Looks to be a good pick.


What are the expectations for him, year 1? By year 2? Year 5?

Depending on what they do with Albert will make a difference, but assuming they trade Albert.

1) plow a hole for JC to tear through
2) keep Alex on his feet while in the pocket

[Deberg_1990]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

So basically you just don't care how he does and you'll be happy regardless.

No, of course not. I hope he becomes a top player of course. I just realize hes only one piece of the puzzle. Team game.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

No, of course not. I hope he becomes a top player of course. I just realize hes only one piece of the puzzle. Team game.

Whereas I think trading away Branden Albert to draft the next Branden Albert 15 spots higher isn't a very smart way of running a franchise. I'd like to think he can be more than that. I mean seriously, shouldn't the Pro Bowl be a minimum floor for a #1 overall pick? I don't think you can expect anyone to be a hall of famer, but what's the point of drafting a guy at #1 if it isn't to get one of the best players in the league at his position? How exactly is that desire unrealistic?

And I'm told over and over how great this new front office is. So if it turns out that he isn't better than either Joeckel or Johnson, that's going to be a major disappointment.

[mikey23545]

Originally Posted by BigChiefTablet

I predict pain.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Maybe I'm higher on Albert than you guys are, but Albert is pretty ****ing good.

He is, I agree.

But he's not great. His ceiling isn't great. Fisher's is.

You focus on Albert's quickness. Here's all I can do to highlight the difference in their respective athleticism:



Fisher is bigger, he's stronger, he's faster, he's quicker, he's more explosive. He is, across the board, a significantly better athlete than Brandon Albert. In many instances it isn't even a close question.

Fisher can truly be a Joe Thomas type of tackle. Now I will listen all day to people that want to debate the value of an elite LT in the modern NFL - it's a legitimate argument.

But this crybaby bullshit from folks that are moping about like there's no way Fisher can ever approach the performance that we got from Albert is just silly. Fisher can be, should be, and in my opinion will be a significantly better all-around LT than Brandon Albert.