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Old 03-02-2009, 08:22 AM  
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A dash of Curry solidifies Chiefs defense.

Obviously, the Chiefs are going to the 3-4.

Lets look at the Defensive line first. The Chiefs have a couple of guys in Boone and McBride that are DE/DT hybrids. They will be able to play DE in the 3-4. McBride has focused on staying slim while in the NFL becuse he was playing end in the 4-3. He will be allowed to Bulk up. Boone is a heck of a fit in the 3-4 as well.

Dorsey often tied up two blockers last year. He will also be allowed to go inside and outside. Perhaps not the prototypical NT... but a guy who has flexibility and will be better at NT than some in here realize. In college, he was asked to merely hold the line of scrimage. He wasn't asked to get upfield. In the 3-4, it will be very similar whether he plays end or NT.

Tank will play the nose exclusively, which should be a good fit on run downs. We also still have Ron Edwards, who is a big body that can rotate in at NT.

Now, linebacker, the OLB's are Hali and Vrabel. Hali should get double digit sacks this year with the switch to the 3-4. He won't be on the line every down which should keep the wear and tear on his body down a bit. It will allow him to be in space, which he plays well in.

I know that some don't think he is fast enough. I think those guys are foolish, but then again, they think I am foolish for thinking he will be a great fit. The great thing is that we will get to see this year who is right.

DJ will move inside. This will help DJ's game. The defensive line for the 3-4 isn't trying to get upfield. They are merely trying to hold the line of scrimage. This will allow DJ to play sideline to sideline and make more plays.

Now, the secondary was pretty good last year. Bernard Pollard will be allowed to play inside the box more and Page will be more of a traditional safety. Morgan is the x factor here because he has more ranged than Pollard and is a better tackler than Page.

The Chiefs starting corners are pretty solid with Carr and Flowers. With the additional pass rush that the Chiefs should be getting, I expect that these guys will do just fine.

Now, comes the spice of the defense.... Curry. Curry is an absolute beast that will roam the middle of the field and make tackle after tackle. Curry is good in coverage, and will be able to rush the passer from the middle of the field on blitz's. This will allow him to be more effective rushing the passer. Inside blitzes are effective because of the speed of the blitzer and a lane created by the outside rush. Curry is fast enough, that he will be able to disquise the blitzes very well and won't have to be close to the line of scrimage to be effective. Curry is the best fit for this team at #3, and will make the biggest impact of any player the Chiefs can draft IMO.

I know I will get flamed for this. I know that some think that McBride, Hali and Dorsey are busts. I think that they are players in the Patriots mold. Guys who love the game, who are smart and who never give up.

I hope that Curry somehow falls to the Chiefs, because if he does, the Chiefs will have a defense that will be at least top half of the league next year, if not top 10.

He is a dynamic leader on defense, and I think the next Ray Lewis. As such, I think he is worth the #3 pick.

Now, flame away. After having the Chiefs effectively remove the option of drafting the dirty Sanchez.... nothing can bring me down....
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:32 AM   #91
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Until someone gives an example of a player that played LB in college and successfully made the transition to 3-4 OLB, the point is moot.
I brought that up a bit ago, I want an example, 3-4 OLB's are converted DE's not traditional backers "taught" to rush the passer.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:34 AM   #92
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Dorsey aside, the rest of that list is made up of rotational players at best. Those guys wouldn't and won't anchor a top 10 unit.
No, not 'anchor'.... the anchor of a unit has to be its strength. In this scenario, the Chiefs strength would be their linebackers.

But, the defensive line would be better than some in here will realize until it happens.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:34 AM   #93
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These guys are not without talent.

Seriously, it takes putting these guys in the right positions to win.

The Chiefs had a glut of DT's last year. Boone, Edwards, Dorsey, and Tank are all viable starters on most teams. Turk McBride fits a 3-4 DE best or a 4-3 under tackle.

Boone and McBride are natural fits at DE in the 3-4.

And, Dorsey is a better option than guys who merely look at the measurables will ever understand.
Boone and McBride are natural fits for BACKUP DE in the 3-4. We'd still need starters.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:35 AM   #94
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The Chiefs LB's would be their strength?

So a team with no pass rushing LB's in a 3-4 would be their strength?
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:35 AM   #95
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I didn't know that Obama's economic strategist was a Chiefs fan.....

No wonder Wall Street is tanking. Sensible is posting on CP while he should be spending another trillion or two.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:35 AM   #96
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Boone and McBride are natural fits for BACKUP DE in the 3-4. We'd still need starters.
And we have no nose at all which is by far the most important line position.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:36 AM   #97
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Donnie Edwards played OLB in the 3-4, just off the top of my head. He played ILB and OLB in the 3-4, as well as MLB and OLB in the 4-3.

But, for the record, I do not want Curry playing OLB in the 3-4.
Donnie Edwards played ILB in the 3-4 and teams don't spend premium draft picks on 3-4 ILB unless they're the Patriots and they're loaded everywhere already.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:37 AM   #98
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Donnie Edwards played ILB in the 3-4 and teams don't spend premium draft picks on 3-4 ILB unless they're the Patriots and they're loaded everywhere already.
He played both.
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Boone and McBride are natural fits for BACKUP DE in the 3-4. We'd still need starters.
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The Chiefs LB's would be their strength?

So a team with no pass rushing LB's in a 3-4 would be their strength?
The LB's were the biggest liability on a terrible unit last season. DJ is a supreme disappointment, and, even if Curry is the greatest thing ever to step foot on a field, he alone won't make the LB corp the strength of this team in a 3-4.
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He played both.
No he didn't. He may have played there in an emergency but he was primarily an ILB.
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No he didn't. He may have played there in an emergency but he was primarily an ILB.
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Old 03-02-2009, 10:38 AM   #102
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Even if we draft Curry we still need another good linebacker to run a 3-4. We also don't know if Vrabel can handle a full time load anymore. I also don't know if Tamba Hali can even play in a 3-4.
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He played both.
I don't believe he played more than a few downs at OLB in San Diego.
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Even if we draft Curry we still need another good linebacker to run a 3-4. We also don't know if Vrabel can handle a full time load anymore. I also don't know if Tamba Hali can even play in a 3-4.
Tamba Hali has a couple fans left.
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Even if we draft Curry we still need another good linebacker to run a 3-4. We also don't know if Vrabel can handle a full time load anymore. I also don't know if Tamba Hali can even play in a 3-4.
If we draft Curry, we need TWO.

DJ is an ILB. Curry is an ILB. Vrabel is a spot player at this point. Hali MIGHT be able to play OLB in a situational role. If we draft Curry, we need two starting OLB's.
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