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Old 11-15-2022, 03:24 PM  
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Josh Allen is Philip Rivers 2.0

So watching the Bills lose to the Vikings, it hit me watching Josh Allen on the bench pouting that he is a less mature version of Philip Rivers. This made me go on a stat finding mission to compare Allen to Rivers... and in in order to be fair to the media perception (& to prove what we all already know), compared Mahomes' stats as well.

We all KNOW that Mahomes is better than Allen (and if you don't, please look again). But the next time you have some Bills lover arguing, here are the facts...

Since both Mahomes & Allen have 4.5 years worth of stats to compare, I think its fair... and I grabbed the first 5 full years of Rivers' stats for the comparison. These are all averaged out based on the the actual number of games played (Excel spreadsheet available if anyone wants to double check). Here is what came to be:

# of Games Played for stat comparison:
Rivers: 80 games from 2006 - 2010
Allen: 70 games from 2018 - 2022
Mahomes: 71 from 2018-2022

Completion/Attempt/Comp%/Yards - per Game Average
Rivers: 19.34 / 30.31 / 63.79% / 243.91
Allen: 20.93 / 33.43 / 62.61% / 240.67
Mahomes: 24.97 / 37.69 / 66.26% / 304.83

TD/TD% per Att/Int/Int% per Att - per Game Average
Rivers: 1.69 TD / 5.57% / .71 INT / 2.35%
Allen: 1.76 TD / 5.26% / .81 INT / 2.39%
Mahomes: 2.48 TD / 6.58% / .61 INT / 1.61%

First Down %/Avg Rating/Avg QBR/Sacks/Sack Yds - per Game Average
Rivers: 39.46% / 97.22 Rating / 65.84 QBR / 1.71 sacks / 10.65 sk yds
Allen: 36.54% / 89.84 Rating / 62.16 QBR / 1.94 sacks / 12.37 sk yds
Mahomes: 42.86% / 106.38 Rating / 75.38 QBR / 1.54 sacks / 9.89 sk yds

Josh Allen is a Good QB - but he is NOT Mahomes. He is Philip Rivers 2.0 - but a little less mature in my opinion. Rivers had 2 years of sitting. So Average Age for them is

Rivers: 27
Allen: 24
Mahomes: 25

So maybe we will see Allen mature a little more, but he is no Mahomes.

*all stats compiled from www.pro-football-reference.com
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Old 11-16-2022, 05:58 PM   #91
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Old 11-16-2022, 06:34 PM   #92
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I don’t think it’s fair to pin it all on Allen, I think that whole franchise is wilting under pressure. Whether it’s the decision to bring Allen back prematurely, the OC throwing a hissy fit as time expired, the Bills are pressing themselves into making bad decisions. They should’ve sat Allen, conceded the L to Minnesota and focused on winning divisional games.
Yeah, but since it's superbowl or bust for them and they realize that we didn't take a step back like everyone thought we would and their own division is a lot tougher than they hoped it would be, they HAVE to take chances. Unfortunately for them it's not only costing them a chance for HF throughout, but they will probably have to play any playoff games on the road
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Old 11-16-2022, 07:26 PM   #93
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You could make the argument they have the same temperament went things aren’t going well.
And that's exactly what drew me to the comparison.
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Old 11-16-2022, 07:32 PM   #94
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Old 11-16-2022, 10:29 PM   #96
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Yeah, but since it's superbowl or bust for them and they realize that we didn't take a step back like everyone thought we would and their own division is a lot tougher than they hoped it would be, they HAVE to take chances. Unfortunately for them it's not only costing them a chance for HF throughout, but they will probably have to play any playoff games on the road
That’s stupid though, if you’re going to put yourself in future cap hell to get over the hump, you should have faith that the talent you acquired is good enough to win tough games on the road in the postseason. Makes me so happy our Chiefs have awesome leadership in Pat and Andy Reid to not panic when things go a bit haywire during the course of the season.
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Old 11-16-2022, 10:41 PM   #97
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You could make the argument they have the same temperament went things aren’t going well.
Allen becomes a soft bitch who gets his feels hurt when shit hits the fan. Like Carr, Josh is a step 1/2 away from crying at the podium during his pressers.
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Allen becomes a soft bitch who gets his feels hurt when shit hits the fan. Like Carr, Josh is a step 1/2 away from crying at the podium during his pressers.
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Old 11-17-2022, 10:39 AM   #101
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Phillip Rivers was so freaking funny to have around.

He is WAY more funny than Josh Allen. There’s nothing funny about Josh Allen. He’s just… lame…
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That play where Allen flipped out when Chris Jones didn’t get flagged for tripping, was vintage Phillip Rivers.
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