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Old 01-11-2023, 12:33 PM   #1
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This interview had a lot of nuggets in it. Some small, some medium sized, maybe one huge.


  • "snowglobe" was put together roughly a year ago, and can neither confirm or deny it was a dunk on the Raiders circling the stadium a couple years back
  • like the Ferrari plays, "snowglobe" was almost certainly a Mahomes concept before Reid/Bienemy refined it
  • Frank Clark is perfectly fine
  • the Chiefs want to re-sign JuJu Smith-Schuster
  • Brett Veach has been a Justin Watson fan for several years, seems likely he'll re-sign him
  • the Chiefs will draft a WR this year at some point
  • the Chiefs could very well make an offer to Willie Gay this offseason, but Gay may choose to play out the remainder of his contract anyway
  • highly indicated the Chiefs will probably make an offer to L'Jarius Sneed
  • probably the biggest news: the Chiefs are going to shop Clyde Edwards-Helaire all offseason and preseason

Tbh, prob not much of a market of CEH.
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Old 01-11-2023, 12:57 PM   #2
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It just cannot be said enough - JJSS is being used as a glorified TE.
He is. And that’s why I don’t think Moore can be compared to his role as much as Watson.

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Average depth of target is 7 yards, fellas. Among guys with his volume, there are like 3 dudes who are running shorter routes than he is.

Ignore this idea that he's a Z receiver here - he isn't. he's being used in an extremely specific capacity and it's exactly the role Moore was used in with success in college.
Again I think this was by design. Teams are deploying the Fangio cover 2 to cut off the deep ball and Andy has countered with this plan using Kelce/Juju/Gray/Fortson/Bell as well as utilizing McKinnon in the flat and it has worked beautifully.

We’re killing teams in the flat and middle intermediate and they can’t stop it.

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JJSS isn't being used downfield. Moore has never been a downfield receiver either and his toolbox doesn't indicate he should be.
This is bizarre. Moore’s college tape shows him on the outside catching along passes as a vertical receiver.

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The role JuJu is being used in is Moore's natural fit.
Some things yes. But I think Watson is his ideal role.
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Old 01-11-2023, 01:45 PM   #3
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Nope. It was Watson
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He is. And that’s why I don’t think Moore can be compared to his role as much as Watson.



Again I think this was by design. Teams are deploying the Fangio cover 2 to cut off the deep ball and Andy has countered with this plan using Kelce/Juju/Gray/Fortson/Bell as well as utilizing McKinnon in the flat and it has worked beautifully.

We’re killing teams in the flat and middle intermediate and they can’t stop it.



This is bizarre. Moore’s college tape shows him on the outside catching along passes as a vertical receiver.



Some things yes. But I think Watson is his ideal role.
So Watsons snaps went up when JJSS went down (along with Hardman) and it was during that time that Moore got the most snaps of the year, then as they came back his went down.

Yes, Skyy beat alot of north dakota state CB's on the outside, he's not likely doing that in the NFL.

So the 2nd round WR we drafted is behind the future's pick FA we signed. That's not the most ideal situation.
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Old 01-11-2023, 02:05 PM   #4
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So Watsons snaps went up when JJSS went down (along with Hardman) and it was during that time that Moore got the most snaps of the year, then as they came back his went down.

Yes, Skyy beat alot of north dakota state CB's on the outside, he's not likely doing that in the NFL.

So the 2nd round WR we drafted is behind the future's pick FA we signed. That's not the most ideal situation.
Maybe I’m wrong, but it sure seems like KC keeps drafting slot/gadget guys in the 2nd round (Hardman/Moore) instead of trying to find an X type receiver for the first time ever in the Reid era.
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This is bizarre. Moore’s college tape shows him on the outside catching along passes as a vertical receiver.

Some things yes. But I think Watson is his ideal role.
Look at the numbers. He was used overwhelmingly as an underneath receiver. Highlights lie - the stats don't.

And if Watson is your goal for him, that's a bad pick in the 4th round, let alone the 2nd.
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If you can't replace Juju with Skyy in year 2, what exactly did you draft him in the 2nd round for?
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If you can't replace Juju with Skyy in year 2, what exactly did you draft him in the 2nd round for?
To play Justin Watson’s role, which is the 3rd most snaps at WR this year.

If you listen to the pod in the OP, Veach was a big fan of Watson at the senior bowl. Didn’t get him, so he brought him in last February before FA.

Nate himself said it was their best sneaky acquisition that helped them win the division.

Watson was signed to a futures deal guys. Expectations were low. They didn’t expect him to be this good. As Nate pointed out, Watson cooked JC Jackson in the 2nd game of the year. He’s done a nice job. Patrick was even surprised with how fast Watson was in the off-season.

Skyy isn’t getting Watson’s snaps
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To play Justin Watson’s role, which is the 3rd most snaps at WR this year.

If you listen to the pod in the OP, Veach was a big fan of Watson at the senior bowl. Didn’t get him, so he brought him in last February before FA.
3rd among WRs means 4th among targets and 5th if Hardman is healthy.

You don't draft a 5th option in the second round.
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3rd among WRs means 4th among targets and 5th if Hardman is healthy.

You don't draft a 5th option in the second round.
Brett Veach clearly does
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Brett Veach clearly does
Only if he missed on the pick.

So which is it, Run?

Was Moore a good pick or should he be replacing Justin Watson next year?

Because it can't be both.
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3rd among WRs means 4th among targets and 5th if Hardman is healthy.

You don't draft a 5th option in the second round.
I just looked and there’s another target you didn’t mention. Noah Gray. 597 snaps this year. More than Watson and 4th behind Kelce, Juju and MVS.

I think that proves the whole “Andy countering cover 2 with bigger intermediate weapons and McKinnon” theory.

But yes I agree that Skyy should have done more this year, but Watson proved his value this year. Beating JC Jackson in week 2 for a TD really upped his value and earned trust from Patrick.

Need to see what Skyy does next season though.
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To play Justin Watson’s role, which is the 3rd most snaps at WR this year.

If you listen to the pod in the OP, Veach was a big fan of Watson at the senior bowl. Didn’t get him, so he brought him in last February before FA.

Nate himself said it was their best sneaky acquisition that helped them win the division.

Watson was signed to a futures deal guys. Expectations were low. They didn’t expect him to be this good. As Nate pointed out, Watson cooked JC Jackson in the 2nd game of the year. He’s done a nice job. Patrick was even surprised with how fast Watson was in the off-season.

Skyy isn’t getting Watson’s snaps
Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.
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Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.
Yeah, the number of snaps he gets is a knock on a wr room not a compliment to his value. That being said I love the guy on the bottom of the rotation for cheap.
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Watson only has the 3rd most snaps, because Hardman's been out, JJSS missed some time, and Toney got injured. Watson had 108 snaps through the first 8 games of the season. That's 14 snaps a game. Hardman got hurt and for some reason Watson started playing a ton and still did jack shit.

"Best sneaky acquisition" lmao, stfu.
For a WR5, vet minimum guy, he’s been a killer FA acquisition.

21 YPC is nothing to sneeze at.
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