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Old 01-11-2023, 08:58 AM  
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Nate Taylor with a lot of middle-to-big-sized news yesterday.
This interview had a lot of nuggets in it. Some small, some medium sized, maybe one huge.


  • "snowglobe" was put together roughly a year ago, and can neither confirm or deny it was a dunk on the Raiders circling the stadium a couple years back
  • like the Ferrari plays, "snowglobe" was almost certainly a Mahomes concept before Reid/Bienemy refined it
  • Frank Clark is perfectly fine
  • the Chiefs want to re-sign JuJu Smith-Schuster
  • Brett Veach has been a Justin Watson fan for several years, seems likely he'll re-sign him
  • the Chiefs will draft a WR this year at some point
  • the Chiefs could very well make an offer to Willie Gay this offseason, but Gay may choose to play out the remainder of his contract anyway
  • highly indicated the Chiefs will probably make an offer to L'Jarius Sneed
  • probably the biggest news: the Chiefs are going to shop Clyde Edwards-Helaire all offseason and preseason
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:26 AM   #91
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People keep bringing up Juju as the role that Skyy fits but I don’t think that’s the correct comparison.

It’s Watson. Justin Watson is doing everything that Skyy fits, which is some of the same things Juju does.
Other than Watson has this real problem holding on to the ball.
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:27 AM   #92
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People keep bringing up Juju as the role that Skyy fits but I don’t think that’s the correct comparison.

It’s Watson. Justin Watson is doing everything that Skyy fits, which is some of the same things Juju does.
When JJSS was out, Moore's snaps were the highest, IIRC
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You guys think Skyy is going to be running those deep posts and such?

I don't see it, would be nice though.
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:31 AM   #94
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:38 AM   #95
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Last 3 games JJSS has had a total of 7 catches and 9 targets. He has disappeared for whatever reason
To be fair, Watkins' performance in the few games before the SB run were not any better, but playoff time came & his numbers jumped / was clutch.

I'm hoping they will use Juju in the same manner as Watkins.
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:38 AM   #96
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What do we get from him that we can't get from a Ronald Jones type as a #3 RB? Jones is getting paid about half of what CEH is too.
Not disagreeing, and I don't really care if he's on the roster or not, but I highly doubt they cut him to save ~$1 million against the cap and then they have to replace him too.

If he doesn't get traded, he's probably still here next year.
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Old 01-11-2023, 11:58 AM   #97
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People keep bringing up Juju as the role that Skyy fits but I don’t think that’s the correct comparison.

It’s Watson. Justin Watson is doing everything that Skyy fits, which is some of the same things Juju does.
Watson's getting 30 routes a game - THAT'S the guy you want Moore to be next season?

Watson's fungible as shit, as is the role he plays. If your plan for our 2nd round pick is to have him be that, then you're all but conceding that Moore was a bad pick in the 2nd round.

And Moore simply isn't that kind of player anyway. He wasn't in college when he was running 80% of his routes underneath. He's a stick/hitch guy. In college he was EXACTLY what JJSS has been this year and he's given no indication that he should be relied on as MORE than that, if he should be relied on as that at all.
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Old 01-11-2023, 12:00 PM   #98
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To be fair, Watkins' performance in the few games before the SB run were not any better, but playoff time came & his numbers jumped / was clutch.

I'm hoping they will use Juju in the same manner as Watkins.
Hope you are right as we need to get some production out of our WR's. Hoping with Toney and we get Mecole back we will throw shit at teams they haven't seen.
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When JJSS was out, Moore's snaps were the highest, IIRC
It just cannot be said enough - JJSS is being used as a glorified TE.

Average depth of target is 7 yards, fellas. Among guys with his volume, there are like 3 dudes who are running shorter routes than he is.

Ignore this idea that he's a Z receiver here - he isn't. he's being used in an extremely specific capacity and it's exactly the role Moore was used in with success in college.

JJSS isn't being used downfield. Moore has never been a downfield receiver either and his toolbox doesn't indicate he should be.

The role JuJu is being used in is Moore's natural fit.
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Old 01-11-2023, 12:13 PM   #100
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When JJSS was out, Moore's snaps were the highest, IIRC
Nope. It was Watson
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People keep bringing up Juju as the role that Skyy fits but I don’t think that’s the correct comparison.

It’s Watson. Justin Watson is doing everything that Skyy fits, which is some of the same things Juju does.
What Skyy does well is get open quickly the first 5 yards.

That's about it, which is a decent slot but those guys are available every year in FA for not much $$$.
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This interview had a lot of nuggets in it. Some small, some medium sized, maybe one huge.


  • "snowglobe" was put together roughly a year ago, and can neither confirm or deny it was a dunk on the Raiders circling the stadium a couple years back
  • like the Ferrari plays, "snowglobe" was almost certainly a Mahomes concept before Reid/Bienemy refined it
  • Frank Clark is perfectly fine
  • the Chiefs want to re-sign JuJu Smith-Schuster
  • Brett Veach has been a Justin Watson fan for several years, seems likely he'll re-sign him
  • the Chiefs will draft a WR this year at some point
  • the Chiefs could very well make an offer to Willie Gay this offseason, but Gay may choose to play out the remainder of his contract anyway
  • highly indicated the Chiefs will probably make an offer to L'Jarius Sneed
  • probably the biggest news: the Chiefs are going to shop Clyde Edwards-Helaire all offseason and preseason

Tbh, prob not much of a market of CEH.
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Last 3 games JJSS has had a total of 7 catches and 9 targets. He has disappeared for whatever reason
Both of our top two WRs disappear for large stretches honestly. MVS had 9 catches the last 5 games.

As of now, I think the whole WR room other than Toney is easily replaceable. Toney is the only one who has a truly unique skill set and talent/potential.
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It just cannot be said enough - JJSS is being used as a glorified TE.
He is. And that’s why I don’t think Moore can be compared to his role as much as Watson.

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Average depth of target is 7 yards, fellas. Among guys with his volume, there are like 3 dudes who are running shorter routes than he is.

Ignore this idea that he's a Z receiver here - he isn't. he's being used in an extremely specific capacity and it's exactly the role Moore was used in with success in college.
Again I think this was by design. Teams are deploying the Fangio cover 2 to cut off the deep ball and Andy has countered with this plan using Kelce/Juju/Gray/Fortson/Bell as well as utilizing McKinnon in the flat and it has worked beautifully.

We’re killing teams in the flat and middle intermediate and they can’t stop it.

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JJSS isn't being used downfield. Moore has never been a downfield receiver either and his toolbox doesn't indicate he should be.
This is bizarre. Moore’s college tape shows him on the outside catching along passes as a vertical receiver.

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The role JuJu is being used in is Moore's natural fit.
Some things yes. But I think Watson is his ideal role.
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If you can't replace Juju with Skyy in year 2, what exactly did you draft him in the 2nd round for?
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