Haley's termination. Cliff notes and highlites?

[JCharles1981]

We learned that.....

1. the moment our team ends a season by winning their division, Team Personnel lets the offensive coordinator go and hires someone with little to no experience in his place.

2. Scott Pioli is Clark Hunt's b*tch.

3. our streak of signing career back up QB's may never end.

4. King Carl is capable of putting the Chiefs in the playoffs year after year, but Pioli isn't.

5. you don't hire a guy to be Head Coach just because he was offensive coordinator for a Superbowl team that lost. Plus, let's not forget that Haley made himself both HC and OC his first year with the Chiefs after firing the OC that was brought in prior to the 2009 preseason.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by JCharles1981

We learned that.....

1. the moment our team ends a season by winning their division, Team Personnel lets the offensive coordinator go and hires someone with little to no experience in his place.

2. Scott Pioli is Clark Hunt's b*tch.

3. our streak of signing career back up QB's may never end.

4. King Carl is capable of putting the Chiefs in the playoffs year after year, but Pioli isn't.

5. you don't hire a guy to be Head Coach just because he was offensive coordinator for a Superbowl team that lost. Plus, let's not forget that Haley made himself both HC and OC his first year with the Chiefs after firing the OC that was brought in prior to the 2009 preseason.

King Carl wasn't capable of taking a shit without Marty.

[JCharles1981]

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

King Carl wasn't capable of taking a shit without Marty.

True that. Maybe Lamar Hunt should have fired Carl the same year Schottenheimer was fired. But, wait, Lamar actually liked Carl Peterson, so that is why it didn't happen.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by JCharles1981

True that. Maybe Lamar Hunt should have fired Carl the same year Schottenheimer was fired. But, wait, Lamar actually liked Carl Peterson, so that is why it didn't happen.

Marty was never fired from the Chiefs.

[JCharles1981]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Marty was never fired from the Chiefs.

I almost have an itching feeling he would have been had he not freely resigned instead.

[WhiteWhale]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Marty was never fired from the Chiefs.

I'm still of the impression that Marty resigned in lieu of being fired.

You know, because Carl respected him and he respected Carl.

AJ Smith fired him and probably would have thrown himself a roman style triumph down the middle of San Diego if he could have. They hated each other.

[BossChief]

Let me also say that I give a lot of the credit for the quality of the last two drafts to Haley, more so than Pioli.

Haleys been around talent evaluators and scouts since he was a kid and his dad built the great Steeler teams of the 70s.

I dont think its any coincidence that the 2009 draft was so horrible and then the next two were pretty damn good. Watch what happens over the next few years as those guys come into their own...I think the 2011 draft will end up being the best this team has had in decades.

Id LOVE to hear who Haley wanted from that 2009 draft....I bet it was Orakpo (my preference)

I hate to say it, but I think we may be in for another "doozy" in 2012 and whatever team Haley goes to will have solid drafts.

[Titty Meat]

All Pioli will have to do is draft a QB in the first round and nobody will give a **** about Todd Haley. I'm sure signing Becht, Palko, and whatever broke dick Haley coached was all 100% Pioli. Dumbass cut Jarred Gaither too. I thought both should be fired but to be fair it wasn't Pioli dressing like a homeless bum cursing up a storm infront of a national audience. Clark was at the game Sunday and that team had lost control firing Haley was absolutely the correct call.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

All Pioli will have to do is draft a QB in the first round and nobody will give a **** about Todd Haley. I'm sure signing Becht, Palko, and whatever broke dick Haley coached was all 100% Pioli. Dumbass cut Jarred Gaither too. I thought both should be fired but to be fair it wasn't Pioli dressing like a homeless bum cursing up a storm infront of a national audience. Clark was at the game Sunday and that team had lost control firing Haley was absolutely the correct call.

A good quarterback can make any head coach look really good.

I will always think Dungy was a mirror image of Herm..but with Peyton Manning its hard to see that.

If he is gonna give the job to Romeo or some other cronie, he better draft the right guy in the first round...or its gonna be his ass on the chopping block in 2 years and the next GM will be brought in.

Clark wants a franchise quarterback....he said as much before Pioli was brought in...

Time for Pioli to get the owner what he wants.

Just, please dont let that guy be Landry Blackledge.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by BossChief

A good quarterback can make any head coach look really good.

Manning didn't do much for Caldwell last year.

[JCharles1981]

Originally Posted by Omega

Manning didn't do much for Caldwell last year.

At least the Colts were winning last year. It's like they cried tears in their beers and quit trying once they discovered that Manning would be out for the entire length of this season. So, they did have a valid excuse for sucking this year. The Chiefs were sucking long before Cassell got injured. I am a die-hard Chiefs fan, but you can't escape the obvious.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by Omega

Manning didn't do much for Caldwell last year.

how is he doing without him?

[threebag]

I guess none of the other threads contained any of this information.

[BossChief]

I would rather have us hire Romeo Crennel than hire Jeff Fisher.

It took a miracle and a blown call for his team to have ever even gotten to the superbowl.

Other than that, he was a poor mans Marty Schottenheimer.

You know who I think would be a fantastic hire (if he wasnt old as dirt)?

Dick Vermiel.

Think of Vermiels offense with this defense to back it up.

I bet Dick could make Stanzi a rockstar...a 23 year old Trent Green would be nice to have.

[JCharles1981]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You know who I think would be a fantastic hire (if he wasnt old as dirt)?

Dick Vermiel.

Think of Vermiels offense with this defense (Romeo Crennel) to back it up.

I bet Dick could make Stanzi a rockstar...a 23 year old Trent Green would be nice to have.

I have to respectfully disagree. The Chiefs have been blown out 5 times this year, and it wasn't all the offense's fault. If the defense were at the top of their game during all 5 of those same games, I imagine they would have only lost by a couple of TD's. Crennel still has some kinks to work out before anyone can assume he can get them back up to the level of the Gunther Cunningham defense of the late 90's.

As far as Dick Vermeil, during his 5 year run as the Chiefs' HC, he was primarily offensive-minded and did little to improve the defense (the defense sucked during the Vermeil years), which would explain why 4 out of those 5 years the team failed to make the playoffs, three of them being with losing or un-winning (8-8) win-loss records. Honestly, the Head Coaching is not the problem overall, it's the entire Chiefs' personnel that needs revamping since they have yet to obtain both a top 10 offense and top 10 defense in the same season.