Patrick Mahomes: Game Manager

[DJ's left nut]

So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by ChiTown

Tell me you don't understand the NFL Rules without telling me you don't understand the NFL Rules...

Once a referee gets in between a scuffle, and then you have a half wit like Van Noy come in a head butt a player, they're going to throw a flag 10 outta 10 times. This isn't hard to understand or a weak call.

I won't even begin to address the rest of your dumbassery.

Wtf are you on lol. I'm not saying it WASN'T a peanlty, nor were my other points. This is in regards to the OP saying Mahomes and Reid taking their foot off the gas because of how "in control" we were.

I don't agree with that sentiment, I just think the Ravens were in a lot less control than we were. Our defense won that game for us, not Mahomes and Reid's game plan in response to the Ravens being unprepared. We have 6 first downs in the 2nd half, that isn't "full control".

[RealSNR]

Milkman (RIP) often said something to the effect of, “I’ll take my chances in the playoffs with a tough defense and a QB who makes the play when he has to.”

Milkman, we’ve got our guy. Beyond our wildest dreams.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Wtf are you on lol. I'm not saying it WASN'T a peanlty, nor were my other points. This is in regards to the OP saying Mahomes and Reid taking their foot off the gas because of how "in control" we were.

I don't agree with that sentiment, I just think the Ravens were in a lot less control than we were. Our defense won that game for us, not Mahomes and Reid's game plan in response to the Ravens being unprepared. We have 6 first downs in the 2nd half, that isn't "full control".

He wasn't saying that they went out there content with going 3 and out every time. What he was saying, was that they weren't going to push the envelope and make a mistake. If those runs had gone for first downs...then we would have kept going. They just didn't.

[Mecca]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Wtf are you on lol. I'm not saying it WASN'T a peanlty, nor were my other points. This is in regards to the OP saying Mahomes and Reid taking their foot off the gas because of how "in control" we were.

I don't agree with that sentiment, I just think the Ravens were in a lot less control than we were. Our defense won that game for us, not Mahomes and Reid's game plan in response to the Ravens being unprepared. We have 6 first downs in the 2nd half, that isn't "full control".

The Ravens only chance of winning that game was a big game changing turnover, you don't want to hand that to them.

[Buehler445]

Originally Posted by Hoover

I never quite understood the Raven's mindset coming into the game. Like why where they so chippy towards the Chiefs? They are the one seed. We are in their house. Act like it. Instead they went all thug-like acting as if this Chiefs team is a house of cards and would crumble if you just got though with it.

I think it was a completely wrong approach.

I also ****ing hate Tony Romo and the constant doom and gloom coverage of how the Chiefs should be worried. Oh I can't believe they deferred and elected to give the Ravens the ball. No credit given for the Chiefs walking into that environment and taking the crowd out of that game after forcing a quick three and out and scoring a TD.

It was like little brother was all emotional and big brother just ****ing shoved him to the side.

It's who they are. All the ****ing time. I posted this in a different thread regarding them being dirty.

Originally Posted by Buehler445

It’s every AFCN team. Every ****ing year. Shitsburgh and Baltimore are the worst. Their games against each other are pretty much ****ing prison brawls. Hines Ward ended a dudes career on a blindside block if I remember right. There is extra shit every ****ing snap with those two.

Bengals aren’t exempt either. The Gaither hit on Green might the dirtiest play I’ve seen and if I’m remembering correctly led to the sliding rule change. Vontez Burfict exists and last year they weren’t even trying to hit Mahomes, they were trying to hang on his injured ankle and twist him up. Pieces of ****ing shit.

Let’s not forget Cleveland’s very own Myles Garrett ripping another players helmet off and attempting to beat him with it.

Yeah. Fire the AFCN into the sun.

You can tell the message from twat waffles like Ray ****ing Lewis was be the bully. And that’s fine when you’re actually tougher than the other guy, but when it doesn’t work, you resort to dirty plays and today is what you get.

They all think they need to be that way to win. It's ****ing annoying.

Originally Posted by DaFace

Clear hold that sprung Lamar for his big run that led to a TD as well.

Oh hey, look, it's Wharton (98, lined up over 79) being blatantly held in a way that let Lamar through on the Ravens 4th and 1 conversion... which led to BAL's only TD drive on the day.

Pretending the refs were even sort of the reason BAL lost is dumb. pic.twitter.com/kRW4a88w3e

— Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) January 29, 2024

It's almost as if refs miss stuff, and the good teams find ways to overcome it.

I'll never understand WTF the refs are doing. Those 2 holding calls at the end of the half were WEAK. And then they let a bunch of worse ones go both ways.

I can't remember the holding call we got, but they let some more go later.

All I really care about is equality, and I think they were pretty equal. That being said, I'd rather them swallow the whistles than throw a bunch of flags.

I'm glad they got the personal foul penalties right. I'm not tuning in to watch a prison brawl. I thought this was a decently officiated game, and I'm happy for it. But I'll never understand WTF they're doing.

[Megatron96]

Originally Posted by staylor26

Which one? Van Noy head butting Kelce in front of the ref?

Or Clowney going helmet to helmet with Pat after the ball was thrown?

And if you're going to call those "weak" while saying "we did commit PI on that INT that wasn't flagged" you're completely full of ****ing shit.

Lol, when did I say either of those flags were weak?



Anyway, at least of the holding calls on Taylor was a weak call. The second one, iirc, wasn't holding.

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak.

The flag against BAL after the altercation between Travis and Queen or whoever was pretty weak for a playoff game.

And KC committed DPI at least twice that wasn't called.

And there were probably a couple more, but I haven't rewatched the game and I missed part of the first quarter.

But again, the refs this season have been terrible, so it's not like any of this was a surprise.

[CaptainMorgan]

Chiefs actually had two drives in the second half of 7 and 8 plays respectively that ate up nearly 10 minutes. Both drives stalled out because of a holding penalty and a sack. It was clear that they put an emphasis on keeping the clock moving in the second half, hence all the runs and more conservative pass plays. Shorten the game when you have a defense playing the way the Chiefs D was against an offence that, outside of a couple busted plays, could not move the ball.

[TripleThreat]

Originally Posted by Mecca

The Ravens only chance of winning that game was a big game changing turnover, you don't want to hand that to them.

I don't know about "winning" but if Zay Flowers was better prepared and not all up in his feelings, I think it would've been more of a nail biter, couple in, the lamar end zone INT, they fully exploded. But I agree with another poster here in response to mine that isn't all up in his feels like some posters here... That's what happens against good coached, quality football teams. You make stupid mistakes, such as the Zay Flowers Taunting, the Van Noy Personal Foul, Lamars frustrated throw into the endzone etc. etc.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by CaptainMorgan

Chiefs actually had two drives in the second half of 7 and 8 plays respectively that ate up nearly 10 minutes. Both drives stalled out because of a holding penalty and a sack. It was clear that they put an emphasis on keeping the clock moving in the second half, hence all the runs and more conservative pass plays. Shorten the game when you have a defense playing the way the Chiefs D was against an offence that, outside of a couple busted plays, could not move the ball.

That also cranked up the pressure on Jackson.
Tic tock. Tic tock.

And as we saw Jackson is horrible under pressure. By pass rushers or the pressure in his feeble mind...

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

Lol, when did I say either of those flags were weak?



Anyway, at least of the holding calls on Taylor was a weak call. The second one, iirc, wasn't holding.

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak.

The flag against BAL after the altercation between Travis and Queen or whoever was pretty weak for a playoff game.

And KC committed DPI at least twice that wasn't called.

And there were probably a couple more, but I haven't rewatched the game and I missed part of the first quarter.

But again, the refs this season have been terrible, so it's not like any of this was a surprise.

It's hard to really take anything you say seriously these days with takes like this.

[IowaHawkeyeChief]

Originally Posted by Mecca

When your own team made more mental mistakes than the officials, and at least half of the mistakes by the officials went in your own team's favor.... It's time to blame your own team and not the refs. https://t.co/khtX0inAfP

— Marcus Whitman (@TFG_Football) January 29, 2024

so clueless... if you watch the video of both, Kelce stands up, looks to the back of the endzone, takes a step away and spikes the ball. If Flowers stands up, takes a steps away and spins the ball, he's not getting a flag.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by TripleThreat

Wtf are you on lol. I'm not saying it WASN'T a peanlty, nor were my other points. This is in regards to the OP saying Mahomes and Reid taking their foot off the gas because of how "in control" we were.

I don't agree with that sentiment, I just think the Ravens were in a lot less control than we were. Our defense won that game for us, not Mahomes and Reid's game plan in response to the Ravens being unprepared. We have 6 first downs in the 2nd half, that isn't "full control".

We absolutely were in control in the 2nd half. DJ nailed it. The O didn't need to do shit. Letting Playoff Lamar and our D do their thing - that was the 2nd half gameplan, and it was blatantly obvious. Now, I think we absolutely missed a few opportunities to move the ball in the 2nd half, but it's pretty damn hard to argue with the results.

[Mecca]

The Flowers thing even went a step beyond as he pushed Sneed down to do it like going "yea take this bitch"

[Ming the Merciless]

Originally Posted by Megatron96

The unnecessary roughness on Roquon (when he jumped off-sides and ran into Trey) was kind of weak.

he didnt accidentally jump off sides though, it wasnt a normal off sides


everyone on the field knew he did it on purpose, and he barreled into trey on purpose


had he actually just jumped the line and tapped him, it wouldve been 5

[The Franchise]

Glad we got to see posts like this in the GDT during the 2nd half.

Originally Posted by ShowtimeSBMVP

Our O might of cost us this game feels like Cincinnati all over again. They couldn’t do crap in 2nd half