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Old 01-29-2024, 09:13 AM  
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So i re-watched the 2nd half last night just for grins.

And during the game I was just aggravated that we simply wouldn't push the ball. But on re-watch and after listening to the post-game, it's clear that this was Mahomes just going full Alex Smith out there.

He wasn't concerned anymore about scoring points. He (and Andy) were wholly content bleeding clock and leaning on their lead. He knew that if he just didn't make a mistake, the Ravens weren't going to come back and win it. So he took ZERO risks.

Contrast that with how he played on the first two drives. And hell, the throw he made on 3rd down when they had to have it. He HAD big plays. He HAD yards and probably points on the board. But he dialed that risk/reward calculus waaaaaaay down because he wanted to make sure there were zero mistakes.

And I think part of it was because he knew that if he needed to pick things back up, he could. He would. He was in complete command of the game and game script.

It was part of a continued evolution from Mahomes. If he needs to breath fire, he will. But when he doesn't need to, he knows how to just keep the game under control. He can be Rodgers OR he can be Brady.

He's a scary scary dude even when he isn't.
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Old 01-29-2024, 10:35 AM   #91
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We also benefited by them allowing our corner to be hands. If it was officiated like the Tampa Superbowl...we lose. Alot of contact on deep passes they let go
I think that's a notable aspect of how we coach our DBs to play. Spags has even specifically mentioned that he's OK with LJ getting a flag here and there because that's how he plays.

Sometimes that ends up costing us in the regular season, but refs absolutely let things go a little more in the postseason. It's almost like they coach our guys to win in the playoffs rather than the regular season...
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Old 01-29-2024, 10:35 AM   #92
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I don’t know. Yesterday seemed like a gift between the van noy penalty, then another penalty right after to give us 30 free yards. Then the zay flowers taunting followed by the fumble and then Lamar endzone INT and we still only won by a score.
Stupid ****ing take.
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I think that's a notable aspect of how we coach our DBs to play. Spags has even specifically mentioned that he's OK with LJ getting a flag here and there because that's how he plays.

Sometimes that ends up costing us in the regular season, but refs absolutely let things go a little more in the postseason. It's almost like they coach our guys to win in the playoffs rather than the regular season...
And KC didn't break any rules AFTER the play was over.

Like Baltimore did.

They stretched the rules during the play - which both teams got away with...
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Some of those flags were pretty weak, especially in a playoff game. But the taunting flag was legit. Incredibly dumb play by Flowers in that moment. And we did commit DPI on that INT that wasn't flagged. But the refs effed up both ways; ultimately BAL just committed more dumb frustration penalties than KC.
Which one? Van Noy head butting Kelce in front of the ref?

Or Clowney going helmet to helmet with Pat after the ball was thrown?

And if you're going to call those "weak" while saying "we did commit PI on that INT that wasn't flagged" you're completely full of ****ing shit.
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Clear hold that sprung Lamar for his big run that led to a TD as well.



It's almost as if refs miss stuff, and the good teams find ways to overcome it.
It's why I LMFAO at the Xwitter bitches. If you want to state the NFL is scripted, that play, along with about 6 others, would STRONGLY go against that narrative.

"It's almost as if refs miss stuff, and the good teams find ways to overcome it."

Perfectly stated.
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Good discussion. And I agree.

I have trouble getting there. It's hard for me to shut off the "always attack" part of my brain, but it's the move.

On Lamar's fumble, Omenihu beat his dude like a rented mule and caused the fumble. KICK ASS. In the moment I was epic ****ing furious because Karlaftis overrushed and opened up a wide ass lane Lamar should have run through. He got tunnel vision on his dude, but this is the same thing.

Make the game tight and make them beat you. What a world we're living in.
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Which one? Van Noy head butting Kelce in front of the ref?

Or Clowney going helmet to helmet with Pat after the ball was thrown?
Or the DT puching Mahomes in the facemask???
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Which one? Van Noy head butting Kelce in front of the ref?

Or Clowney going helmet to helmet with Pat after the ball was thrown?
The Ravens fully expected that they could dish out punishment and not get called for it. It didn't work out that way.

I don't know if anyone else saw it but Van Noy was calling for a false start penalty pretty much every one of our offensive snaps. He'd be waving his arms at the ref and pointing at our offensive line.
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Or the DT puching Mahomes in the facemask???
That was clearly an open palmed judo punch...
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I never quite understood the Raven's mindset coming into the game. Like why where they so chippy towards the Chiefs? They are the one seed. We are in their house. Act like it. Instead they went all thug-like acting as if this Chiefs team is a house of cards and would crumble if you just got though with it.

I think it was a completely wrong approach.

I also ****ing hate Tony Romo and the constant doom and gloom coverage of how the Chiefs should be worried. Oh I can't believe they deferred and elected to give the Ravens the ball. No credit given for the Chiefs walking into that environment and taking the crowd out of that game after forcing a quick three and out and scoring a TD.

It was like little brother was all emotional and big brother just ****ing shoved him to the side.
Not to mention, it's what the Chiefs always do & it kind of works for them. He made the same complaint in the Buffalo game & it worked in our favor then, too.

It's almost like Andy Reid is smarter than Tony Romo.
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I think that's a notable aspect of how we coach our DBs to play. Spags has even specifically mentioned that he's OK with LJ getting a flag here and there because that's how he plays.

Sometimes that ends up costing us in the regular season, but refs absolutely let things go a little more in the postseason. It's almost like they coach our guys to win in the playoffs rather than the regular season...
I agree. Was just thinking back a bit after all the Brady comparisons people are making today and remembering how we got absolutely ****ed in both playoff matchups against him.
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Which one? Van Noy head butting Kelce in front of the ref?

Or Clowney going helmet to helmet with Pat after the ball was thrown?

And if you're going to call those "weak" while saying "we did commit PI on that INT that wasn't flagged" you're completely full of ****ing shit.
Yeah, I'm curious to this as well. Show your work, @Megatron96
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The Ravens absolutely had no poise, you could see that the pressure and the moment was to big for them. Especially Lamar which was rubbing off on the rest of the team.
They were 100% running off emotion and couldn't keep it in check. It was like watching a 4 year old melt down because Mom said he couldn't have cookies for dinner. It was all bravado. As soon as they were put in a tough, losing situation, they completely folded.
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