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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:21 PM   #3721
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If we had drafted Bray first overall, people would be happier than they are now.
Maybe. Obviously we don't get to sit into interviews and aren't privledged to all the information the people making the calls are. If he was taken first that would have meant he didn't screw up in interviews and such or for whatever reason he fell so you are basically talking about an imaginary player in a sense.

If they had done that though does that change everything leading up to the draft? I'm assuming Daniel isn't here at 3 million a year and Bray is the backup. That's a plus. I'm assuming Stephenson is the RT and playing better than Fisher. That's a plus.

I don't know. Interesting thought, and I'm not sure we wouldnt' be better off now and in the future.
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Old 09-24-2013, 12:23 PM   #3722
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If we had drafted Bray first overall, people would be happier than they are now.
I would say about 20% would be. I think the poll at the top of the thread would be about the same if that was the question.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:01 PM   #3723
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Maybe..If he can also get his EGO in check...The whole superman thing is stupid.

To all you GENO-HOMOS..
Lets say we went ahead with the Alex trade, but then picked Geno at 1.1
Started Alex, made Geno ride the pine, but still had our current 3-0 record with Alex...would you still be bitching?
**** NO.

Winston could have served the purpose of "win now" easily. EASILY. And probably better than rookie Fisher.
Goddamnit people; he may have been the best tackle in the draft, but he WAS NOT a tackle worth taking with a 1.1. PERIOD.

Anywho; back to the subject at hand. Trading for Alex, picking up Geno, and acquiring Bray would have been the best goddamned draft this franchise has had in DECADES. DECADES.
Our QB roster was pure dogshit in 2012, and with these selections/moves, it would have upgraded to out-****ing-STANDING overnight.
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Old 09-24-2013, 10:15 PM   #3724
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**** NO.

Winston could have served the purpose of "win now" easily. EASILY. And probably better than rookie Fisher.
Goddamnit people; he may have been the best tackle in the draft, but he WAS NOT a tackle worth taking with a 1.1. PERIOD.

Anywho; back to the subject at hand. Trading for Alex, picking up Geno, and acquiring Bray would have been the best goddamned draft this franchise has had in DECADES. DECADES.
Our QB roster was pure dogshit in 2012, and with these selections/moves, it would have upgraded to out-****ing-STANDING overnight.
Well we currently have 2/3 so that's pretty good right?
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Old 09-25-2013, 12:42 AM   #3725
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Old 09-25-2013, 01:26 AM   #3726
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Old 09-25-2013, 02:26 AM   #3727
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Smith is 29. He's got a five to eight year window (min/max) to play with, especially in this system.

Bray is going to get the Rogers treatment and learn under Reid/Smith for the better part of four years. That's a positive. A big positive as his mechanicals are yuck, but his raw tools and skill set are very good and Smith is very fundamentally sound and Reid has been very effective in coaching QB's.

Daniels...meh. He is what he is - a backup.

The situation is okay.
Why do people keep saying this? He has only truly coached ONE QB. He didn't do squat with the rest.
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Old 09-25-2013, 07:59 AM   #3728
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Yup. There were no Can't miss prospects in the 2013 draft, which is why the Chiefs should have gone with the best QB prospect (considering it is the most important position in sports). This was the year to "take that risk".

Good thing we selected a project RT, because that isn't risky at all.
My thoughts/opinions exactly.

This draft sucks! No impact players! Everyone has warts!

When presented with a bunch of bad, risky options, take the one with the most upside and potential impact.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:34 AM   #3729
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:36 AM   #3730
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Why do people keep saying this? He has only truly coached ONE QB. He didn't do squat with the rest.
That's not true. Getting bad QBs to play so well that teams want them badly enough to give up high draft picks is doing more than squat. Reid is good with QBs. Other than in his last season, what QB didn't play well for him?
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3TD's 6 Ints.
Go find Peyton Manning's first 3 games stats.... or Perhaps Alex Smith's.

Do QB's not improve their turnover ratios as they gain experience? Geno will learn what he can't get away with in the NFL and he will stop trying to force silly passes he got away with in college. It's called learning and getting better.

But whatever, you have such Hate for Geno Smith that it doesn't matter if he turns out Elite, you are still going to hate him.
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That's not true. Getting bad QBs to play so well that teams want them badly enough to give up high draft picks is doing more than squat. Reid is good with QBs. Other than in his last season, what QB didn't play well for him?
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Yep.

Combined numbers for QB starts under Andy Reid NOT named Donovan McNabb:

38-44 record (.463)
55% completion percentage
112 TD's
94 INT's
70 QBR.


And those numbers are inflated due to Vick, who was a #1 overall pick.
Reid had success with the #2 overall pick.

Otherwise, the average numbers for every other QB he's "hand-picked" have been ****ing brutal.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:53 AM   #3735
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Reid had success with the #2 overall pick.

Otherwise, the average numbers for every other QB he's "hand-picked" have been ****ing brutal.
Yup. Whenever I hear "Reid is a QB guru", I just laugh.
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