Chiefs’ Eric Fisher determined to bounce back after miserable half at Philadelphia

[RealSNR]

I would have much rather had Sheldon Richardson over Eric Fisher. But again, the problem there would have been getting him on the field. I have no idea if he's doing well for the Jets this year or not, but you have a KC team that restructured Jackson to basically pay him peanuts for the final year of his contract and who had just signed Mike DeVito to a starter's deal.

For his rookie season anyway, Sheldon at best would be seeing the field through the line rotation, and would have only started in the case of injury. It also makes the defensive line a strong permanent fixture for the next 3-4 seasons, or until DeVito's wheels fall off. We would be getting better RT play for this season, but it would also force our hand in terms of Albert's contract.

But hey, that's pretty much going to happen anyway. I think Dorsey surely must already see that the Chiefs are a way better football team with Branden Albert than without. Albert's probably going to gain some more ground on a longterm deal negotiation with Dorsey than he got last offseason.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SNR

I would have much rather had Sheldon Richardson over Eric Fisher. But again, the problem there would have been getting him on the field. I have no idea if he's doing well for the Jets this year or not, but you have a KC team that restructured Jackson to basically pay him peanuts for the final year of his contract and who had just signed Mike DeVito to a starter's deal.

For his rookie season anyway, Sheldon at best would be seeing the field through the line rotation, and would have only started in the case of injury. It also makes the defensive line a strong permanent fixture for the next 3-4 seasons, or until DeVito's wheels fall off. We would be getting better RT play for this season, but it would also force our hand in terms of Albert's contract.

But hey, that's pretty much going to happen anyway. I think Dorsey surely must already see that the Chiefs are a way better football team with Branden Albert than without.

Lotuleili is playing well, as is Vacarro.

Vacarro and Berry would have been sick.

And Poe-Richardson and/or Poe-Lotuleili wouldn't be too far behind.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lotuleili is playing well, as is Vacarro.

Vacarro and Berry would have been sick.

And Poe-Richardson and/or Poe-Lotuleili wouldn't be too far behind.

Lol. With that hypothetical secondary, I don't fear the Broncos one bit. Cover 3 the shit out of Peyton and let our LBs do the rest of the work. That would be so sexy.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by SNR

Lol. With that hypothetical secondary, I don't fear the Broncos one bit. Cover 3 the shit out of Peyton and let our LBs do the rest of the work. That would be so sexy.

We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.

So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

[jd1020]

Originally Posted by lcarus

So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

Will it matter if he does? Nope.

Terrible position to pick to improve your team, especially at #1. Look for someone who can block in the middle rounds.

[lcarus]

Originally Posted by jd1020

Will it matter if he does? Nope.

Terrible position to pick to improve your team, especially at #1. Look for someone who can block in the middle rounds.

A left tackle is pretty damn important to any offense. Which is what we originally thought he would be playing.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by lcarus

So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

Hope? Sure.

But the #1 overall guy should be in beast mode from Day One, not need a year in the weight room, learning technique, etc.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Hope? Sure.

But the #1 overall guy should be in beast mode from Day One, not need a year in the weight room, learning technique, etc.

Agreed. If not in beast mode; at least showing flashing of dominance.

We've seen the exact opposite so far.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by lcarus

So at this point do you have any hope at all that Fisher could one day blossom into a Pro Bowl tackle?

There's been absolutely nothing so far to show that he has that sort of potential. Not even really any dominating flashes so far.

Just a bunch of 'meh' mixed in with a healthy does of 'WTF' and 'shit'.

The book isn't written by any means; but there is no data to show that sort of optimism at this point.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by Pablo

There's been absolutely nothing so far to show that he has that sort of potential. Not even really any dominating flashes so far.

Just a bunch of 'meh' mixed in with a healthy does of 'WTF' and 'shit'.

The book isn't written by any means; but there is no data to show that sort of optimism at this point.

Really dude. He's played 3 games.

He didn't come into the draft being touted as Orlando Pace. He was a high ceiling project, an ascending player who it is hoped would develop into a top player a la Joe Staley, who came out of the same school.

Fisher was not even really a reach because he was the top player in the draft at a premium position. It wasn't like teams had him graded as a second round pick and we grabbed him a full round too early. He was a no-doubt top 10 pick.

I don't understand people holding him to this standard that makes no sense, that he should make the pro bowl this year or whatever, just because of where he was drafted. He can't help that. He's the same man whether he was drafted at #1 or #10 or anywhere else.

[Coogs]

Originally Posted by Pablo

There's been absolutely nothing so far to show that he has that sort of potential. Not even really any dominating flashes so far.

Just a bunch of 'meh' mixed in with a healthy does of 'WTF' and 'shit'.

The book isn't written by any means; but there is no data to show that sort of optimism at this point.

There is this...

Fisher still managed to make a few impressive plays Thursday. He had a textbook reach block that sprung running back Jamaal Charles for a 3-yard score in the second half, and also drove a linebacker 12 yards downfield on another second-half run.

“There’s definitely different things you see in there that give you hope,” Schwartz said. “Really, some of his issues have been pass blocking and that just comes with time, knowing space, knowing angles, stuff like that. There’s no worry … we’re 3-0.”

And his teammates don't seem to be pushing the panic button.

[Chiefs Pantalones]

The same people that are saying Fisher is a bust are the same that were anointing RG3 and Kap great QBs after a year. Patience, brethren.

[ReynardMuldrake]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

We all knew they weren't going to take a QB. And I know it's early in Fisher's career and he had an injured finger, blah, blah, blah.

But I'd be remiss to mention that I'd be more comfortable with John Dorsey had he identified a better football player, out of the gates, than Fisher.

I (still) believe that a first round pick, especially the #1 overall, should contribute positively from Day One. From my POV, Fisher as failed to do so but guys like Richardson, Vacarro, Lotuleili and Hopkins have been difference makers immediately.

Dorsey's done a very good job of bringing in complimentary players in free agency but his draft record, to date, is poor.

Let's just hope that's not a harbinger of things to come.

It's unrealistic to expect a rookie who has never played the position before to have it all figured out by snap one. It takes time.

[BossChief]

Can you imagine what Von Miller is gonna do to Eric Fisher?

Might break Derrick Thomas' single game sack record.