Chiefs ****OFFICIAL DENVER'S DEFENSE IS HORRIBLE THREAD****

listopencil · 10-06-2013, 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Getting Harris, Von, and champ back will help

Losing Harris was big. He's been pretty good. I'm still waiting to see how Champ is going to be. He had a bad game against the Ravens and hasn't played a meaningful down since. I thought he'd be healthy by now. Makes me wonder if he has just finally lost a step and doesn't look good enough for the coaches to pull somebody else to put him out there. It's speculative of course but it's worrisome. I expect Miller to put in a lot of effort when he gets back. He should be thoroughly embarrassed and humbled by his suspension. What he did was pretty stupid and, as far as I'm concerned, he needs to prove he's worthy all over again. He's one **** up away from a one year suspension. The team has to be considering that.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-06-2013, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Losing Harris was big. He's been pretty good. I'm still waiting to see how Champ is going to be. He had a bad game against the Ravens and hasn't played a meaningful down since. I thought he'd be healthy by now. Makes me wonder if he has just finally lost a step and doesn't look good enough for the coaches to pull somebody else to put him out there. It's speculative of course but it's worrisome. I expect Miller to put in a lot of effort when he gets back. He should be thoroughly embarrassed and humbled by his suspension. What he did was pretty stupid and, as far as I'm concerned, he needs to prove he's worthy all over again. He's one **** up away from a one year suspension. The team has to be considering that.

Champ is not Champ of even 5 years ago. Sure he'll help but they can't run him like some of the schemes they used to do where he basically covered 1/3 of the backfield, and other guys could be free to get creative and you had Lynch and other DBs to roll coverage over if teams tried to flood a couple routes and draw him on the deep go or streak route to take the underneath drag or cross or bubble screens.

listopencil · 10-06-2013, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Champ is not Champ of even 5 years ago. Sure he'll help but they can't run him like some of the schemes they used to do where he basically covered 1/3 of the backfield, and other guys could be free to get creative and you had Lynch and other DBs to roll coverage over if teams tried to flood a couple routes and draw him on the deep go or streak route to take the underneath drag or cross or bubble screens.

This long injury holdout might be a great excuse to work him into more of a supporting role. Our bye week is coming at a good time. We need to get back to creating at least moderate pass rush to be effective with the Defense we run. I had forgotten, Woodyard left the game as well. The D that was out there today was definitely hampered a bit and our DC floundered as he tried to adapt. I wouldn't be surprised if they hold him out next week and Del Rio creates a game plan without both of them.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-06-2013, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

This long injury holdout might be a great excuse to work him into more of a supporting role. Our bye week is coming at a good time. We need to get back to creating at least moderate pass rush to be effective with the Defense we run. I had forgotten, Woodyard left the game as well. The D that was out there today was definitely hampered a bit and our DC floundered as he tried to adapt. I wouldn't be surprised if they hold him out next week and Del Rio creates a game plan without both of them.

I'm glad you see his true value, but he definitely still has some, but it's not like Champ Island is coming in and Von and him coming back is 1A & 1B in terms of talent.

Enjoy your victory, Listo, you at least contribute around when these nonsense threads don't rear up and everyone goes hard line in taking their rival positions.

listopencil · 10-06-2013, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

I'm glad you see his true value, but he definitely still has some, but it's not like Champ Island is coming in and Von and him coming back is 1A & 1B in terms of talent.

Enjoy your victory, Listo, you at least contribute around when these nonsense threads don't rear up and everyone goes hard line in taking their rival positions.

Same to you, bud. The AFCW is looking vicious again. We've got the Chargers up and coming too. Should be an interesting year.