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Old 04-28-2013, 03:03 PM  
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Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.
It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:55 AM   #4366
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I watched the end of the game as they switched over after the Chiefs game. And I just watched it again. The Jets had 7 seconds left and no timeouts. He runs out at about the TB 47. So you guys are assuming that Geno would have been able to get at least 10-15 yards and and get out of bounds in under 7 seconds? That's quite a big assumption.

Edit: Wrong quote. Meant that more for the other Geno fans. You already said your peace on this game in the last post.
I know you didn't mean to quote me, but yeah I think he had a 50-50 shot of hitting a 10 yard pass and the WR getting out of bounds. Again, put the shoe on the Chiefs foot in the scenario I gave. Obiously, if they had TO the odds go way up of him getting that yardage and again he did go 33 yards in 26 seconds without a TO just to put them in a position for a penalty to help them out.
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Old 10-08-2013, 11:57 AM   #4367
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Look, another Geno lover who can't discuss facts and would rather just snipe.
If you're going to come in here and shit on Geno, expect backlash, homer.

Geno's "gift" only won a game because Geno made other plays prior to it.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:00 PM   #4368
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7 seconds to get 8-10 yards and no TO's. I'd say 50/50 shot they still win that game, but it was no where near a forgone conclusion it was over without the penalty, not am I saying Geno for sure gets that yardage and stops the clock for sure.

Imagine being a Chiefs fan and the Chiefs are in the same situation. 7 seconds, 8-10 yards needed for a 52 yard fg to win the game. Then let's say for some reason we fumble the snap on the play with 7 secs to go. Would you brush it off as well we had no shot at that game so no big deal on the fumbled snap?

HELL ****ING NO! NOBODY WOULD.
One more thing. Geno ran out at the 47. For a 52 yard FG attempt, the Jets would have had to get it to the 35. That's 12 yards, not 8-10. And as for the True Fans comment in the other post, that is ridiculous. I'm not one of those who feels as though every move the Chiefs make is the wrong one. But I do think feel that some of you guys are just as bad as the True Fans that you constantly degrade. Not every move the Chiefs make is right but not every move they make is wrong, either. I prefer to give them time and a fair shot. I think we're all still so used to being screwed over by the past 2 regimes that we just assume that is going to happen again. I prefer to wait and see. So far, I like what they're doing. If Alex doesn't do well in the playoffs this year and the regular season/playoffs next year then I would like to see us go for another QB. Or perhaps Bray will develop.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:05 PM   #4369
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One more thing. Geno ran out at the 47. For a 52 yard FG attempt, the Jets would have had to get it to the 35. That's 12 yards, not 8-10. And as for the True Fans comment in the other post, that is ridiculous. I'm not one of those who feels as though every move the Chiefs make is the wrong one. But I do think feel that some of you guys are just as bad as the True Fans that you constantly degrade. Not every move the Chiefs make is right but not every move they make is wrong, either. I prefer to give them time and a fair shot. I think we're all still so used to being screwed over by the past 2 regimes that we just assume that is going to happen again. I prefer to wait and see. So far, I like what they're doing. If Alex doesn't do well in the playoffs this year and the regular season/playoffs next year then I would like to see us go for another QB. Or perhaps Bray will develop.
Meh, it's 2 yards. Still a legit FG attempt at 54 yards or gettig 12 instead of 10. The point being it wasn't "over except for the stupid penalty". Far from it.

Most agree they pushed a lot of right buttons. Avery, Cooper, McGrath, all fine pickups. The problem is however the players bitched about Alex and Fisher seem to be underwhelming. In fact every time I watch this team I wonder how dominant it could have been with a franchise QB. Hopefully that's Bray. I like that move as well.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:07 PM   #4370
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If you're going to come in here and shit on Geno, expect backlash, homer.

Geno's "gift" only won a game because Geno made other plays prior to it.
Your and idiot. I didn't shit on Geno. I simply stated some facts on the scenario. Facts in which you have not come up with a good refute. BigCatDaddy is really the only one of you who actually made a good argument. I don't necessarily agree with his 50/50 chance argument, but at least he admits that the chances were not great. Geno did a good job getting them back in it, sure. I'll admit that. And that shows some potential for his future for sure. But he also turned it over several times that put them down in the first place. Perhaps that's just him being a rookie and he'll grow out of it. I'm willing to admit that. That's the whole point. You're so attached to Geno that you're blind to the bad stuff he does. You only see what you consider the good stuff. That pretty much makes you a homer. A Geno homer. And that's just as bad as the True Fans who were too blind to blind to the Chiefs failings of the past few years to see what a train wreck Pioli and Co. were and how they were ruining this franchise.
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Old 10-08-2013, 12:32 PM   #4371
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As we all know, drafts can't be judged until a few years down the road. I don't think it's fair for the people that say Fisher wasn't a good choice just because he has struggled. First, he's playing on the other side of what he played in college. He also has to get used to the speed at this level. Same with Geno. Same with all college players. Review this again in 4-5 years and it may be a completely different story. Again, time will tell. I'm not discounting the possibility that Geno may turn into a star. But I think you guys need to not discount the possibility that he may not. Or he could be somewhere in between, like a Phillip Rivers - great arm but makes boneheaded decisions at times.
Absolutely on all counts.
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Your and idiot. I didn't shit on Geno.
"He'd be 2-3 if it wasn't for that miracle!"

Pick up your shit, and eat it.
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Us "Genobaters" are looking solid right now. I actually liked the Alex trade, but damn I wanted Geno sitting behind him. No such thing as investing too much in the QB position.
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Us "Genobaters" are looking solid right now. I actually liked the Alex trade, but damn I wanted Geno sitting behind him. No such thing as investing too much in the QB position.
tell that to the Ravens~
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tell that to the Ravens~
They're busy polishing their shiny new lombardi
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Don't act like you aren't jealous.

Sexy. I was right about Kaepernick. I was right about Russell Wilson. I'm gonna be right about Geno, too. He'll prove the doubters wrong, by God.

Now... paging Aaron Murray... Aaron Murray... please come to the criminally underrated desk... Aaron. Murray.

PS your sig is still reeruned.
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That they won without having to pay for a $120 million quarterback. Let's see how often they get to the Super Bowl when they can't afford to put a good offensive line or defense on the field to protect Flacco...
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Whatever. I'm waiting for our defense to falter. And when it does...Alex will fall right in line.

PS - The Falcons scored 28 points last night.

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I liked what I saw from Geno last night. He made mistakes, got creamed for some, made some good throws and some bad throws, but he kept playing hard and didn't crumble under pressure on the road and all.
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