Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

[Hammock Parties]

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

[mattschiefs]

Originally Posted by BossChief

You don't seem to understand positional value whatsoever. Let me try to help you understand a little about where some of us are coming from.

Let's say we drafted a punter with the first pick in the draft.

Wouldn't he be expected to be phenomenal RIGHT AWAY?

Kickers and position players and 2 VERY different things

Let me give you and Example

Orlando Pace. Living near St louis over the years I've seen a TON of Rams game since they moved to St louis in 95 his first year he had his rookie moments the next year he went to the pro bowl and he was a pro bowler for YEARS. But he had his rookie moments so he was a bust right? That's what you geno ass kissers are saying.

But anytime Geno being a turnover machine is brought up it's oh he's a rookie. That's a copout if you don't give fisher the same rookie treatment

[BossChief]

I asked a simple question.

If we drafted a punter with the first pick in the draft, you would EXPECT him to be phenomenal RIGHT AWAY...right?

[mattschiefs]

Originally Posted by SNR

1. You have no ****ing clue who or what I wanted or didn't want, unless you went back into the archives and looked it up. And if you did, that's just plain creepy.

2. You don't know how to speak ****ing English. I can't ****ing understand half of the shit you've typed.

3. Like BossChief said, you have yet to address the concern raised about POSITIONAL VALUE when you have a high draft pick. It's almost like it doesn't ****ing exist with you.

4. Yes, you're mad. I can tell. Your tone has changed significantly since you started posting in this thread.

Point 1 your right

Point 2 learn to read?

Point 3 I have said time and time again that YES he should show promise before a QB. But making him out to be horrible before he has even reached halfway in his rookie year is a bit extreme but you geno asskisser go through to cry that you didn't get your way

point 4 you have no idea how much i have laughed tonight. At how far you geno asskissers go to bash this team for not replacing a turnover machine with a turnover machine

[BossChief]

There is a reason that NFL GMs pay TOP FLIGHT RTs under 6 million dollars a year and top flight quarterbacks get between 20-25 million PER YEAR.

Aaron Rodgers makes more in 1 year than a top flight RT makes in 5 years.

You know why?

Positional value.

So, when you spend the top pick in the draft on a right tackle, he better be really good right away because you are giving him a fully guaranteed contract that pays him at the level the elite guys from his position group get paid.

When you draft a quarterback, you are getting that player at 1/4 of the cost of a fully matured franchise quarterback...or about the same amount Josh Freeman is getting from Minnesota.

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Yes.

So far he doesn't give me hope we can beat a good team in the playoffs.

Ryan Fitzpatrick very nearly beat us last week.

Playoff wins or a super bowl, what is it you expect? He beat good teams in the playoffs with frisco, why couldnt he do it here? His boring style protects the defense, is that really so wrong if it leads to wins.

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

The short term:

Become Gannon or his rough equivalent.

If you ask me, he's already in Gannon territory... a very football smart QB who has everything you want except a cannon arm, but the flipside is he isnt often going to put your defense in a bad spot with his sharp decision making... Loose Gannon made it to the big show, Smythe was a botched play not of his making away from it... he's pretty much already their with Rich, imo.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by scott free

Playoff wins or a super bowl, what is it you expect? He beat good teams in the playoffs with frisco, why couldnt he do it here? His boring style protects the defense, is that really so wrong if it leads to wins.



If you ask me, he's already in Gannon territory... a very football smart QB who has everything you want except a cannon arm, but the flipside is he isnt often going to put your defense in a bad spot with his sharp decision making... Loose Gannon made it to the big show, Smythe was a botched play not of his making away from it... he's pretty much already their with Rich, imo.

Gannon as a Chief.

Smart, effective more often than not. Consistent through 4 quarters.

He's not there.

[RealSNR]

This goes for everybody.

I want to know what language this post was written in. I have no clue what it says. My best guess is it's backwards Hebrew. Or possibly Croatian.

Originally Posted by mattschiefs

It's very fair and evaluating HAS to happen for all players

But as I see it most not all Geno fans set 10X All pro standards for Eric Fisher from day 1. They point out every mistake he makes. While when mistakes Geno makes get met with "he's a rookie" YES he is and Geno Smith deserves time to grow as a player to. But so does Eric Fisher. All I'm saying is that people are being to hard on him less then half a season in the NFL and alot are declaring him to be a bad pick

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by SNR

This goes for everybody.

I want to know what language this post was written in. I have no clue what it says. My best guess is it's backwards Hebrew. Or possibly Croatian.

[mattschiefs]

Originally Posted by SNR

This goes for everybody.

I want to know what language this post was written in. I have no clue what it says. My best guess is it's backwards Hebrew. Or possibly Croatian.

Pretty sure that's English I no it's hard to read with Geno's rear end in the way

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by mattschiefs

Pretty sure that's English I no it's hard to read with Geno's rear end in the way

Lemme guess - pig latin?

[Easy 6]

Originally Posted by SNR

This goes for everybody.

I want to know what language this post was written in. I have no clue what it says. My best guess is it's backwards Hebrew. Or possibly Croatian.

The Planet is ****ing with his head with its dogged persistence, HE'S NOT USED TO THIS CRAP!.

Lets call it, Noobian.

[BossChief]

Over/under on how many posts before this guy shows he is smart enough to properly use the language?

I'm setting that bar at 829 posts.

My 9 year old knows the difference between know and no...or their and there.

Sad.

[splatbass]

Originally Posted by Sweet Daddy Hate

So, how many of you 294 bitches want to change your vote?

Not me.

[Sweet Daddy Hate]

Originally Posted by splatbass

Not me.

[mattschiefs]

Ok this is pointless I'll go to anther site this I thought was a site for Chiefs fans not geno ass kissers so I'll do you a favor and leave

But before I go let me say that I find you people to be anything BUT chiefs fans. You bash a QB who has come to KC and win. 5-0 and instead of being happy you whine and cry that the QB isn't who you wanted. You give all Chiefs fans a bad name. Telling people to get aids Real classy real classy. It's real sad when the 49ers fans on here act more like Chiefs fans then You people. The fact is the FACTS don't support your opinion. You can't do better in the w-l department in 5 games then 5-0 that's what Alex Smith has done yet you people crap all over him. The chiefs didn't draft Geno Smith TO BAD SO SAD. He wasn't the right choice You wanted to go from turnover machine to Turnover machine and I'm the stupid one ok. I will go spend my time doing something more productive then continue dealing with internet tough guys and know it alls when the facts don't support them. Have a nice day.