Football Knowmo's Homer Thread - Page 113

Quesadilla Joe · 07-30-2013, 08:36 AM

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/story/2...power-rankings

vailpass · 10-27-2013, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Mother****erJones

Lol your own fellow fan just called your bullshit.

Not calling bs, asking a question.

RunKC · 10-27-2013, 12:55 AM

Broncos D has allowed 300 or more passing yards from the QB position (Foles and Vick combined were over 300) in every game except last week and vs Oakland, and Pryor had 281 yards, and he's terrible throwing the ball.

JFC Magic they are that bad.

vailpass · 10-27-2013, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Had 213 yards.

Yeah thats not a lot, less than I thought.

MagicHef · 10-27-2013, 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Not calling bs, asking a question.

Luck had fewer yards against Denver than Keenum had against KC.

RunKC · 10-27-2013, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Luck had fewer yards against Denver than Keenum had against KC.

Luck also scored 4 times as many TD's on your defense than Keenum did to ours.

Mother****erJones · 10-27-2013, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Luck had fewer yards against Denver than Keenum had against KC.

Luck scored 39 Keenum 16.

Mother****erJones · 10-27-2013, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Not calling bs, asking a question.

It's bs. It's who hef is

MagicHef · 10-27-2013, 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Luck also scored 4 times as many TD's on your defense than Keenum did to ours.

Luck is kind of good.

RunKC · 10-27-2013, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Luck is kind of good.

We know. We played him last year and he only had 1 TD and a little over 200 passing yards.

salame · 10-27-2013, 01:50 AM

my swag is through the roof

AussieChiefsFan · 10-27-2013, 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

Luck had fewer yards against Denver than Keenum had against KC.

Yet the Colts scored 39 points in the process. Over twice as much as our defense has let up in any game this year.

MagicHef · 10-27-2013, 02:25 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

It makes perfect sense. Manning is not a threat that those QB's are with their feet, so why should our rush D be concerned about that when that has been a weakness?

And yes Alex Smith is not Romo or Eli, but my God if Romo can throw 500 on you then I would bet Alex can get 300.

Your pass D is literally that awful.

If you take out the yards, you have to take out the plays, too. If you do that, KC is still just 17th in YPC allowed. It is true that KC is incredibly bad against running QBs, but that doesn't make them good against the run.

I'm not sure why Chiefs fans are so excited about Denver's weak pass defense. It doesn't apply to KC, similar to how a running QB weakness doesn't apply to Manning. You don't have the players to exploit it, even if Alex does manage to have the fourth 300 yard game of his career.

MagicHef · 10-27-2013, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

The scheme is more naturally inclined to putting pressure on the pass instead of the run. This makes sense when you consider how the defensive linemen are asked to attack, and in all the weird and complex different packages. Sorry, but lining up Allen Bailey over center with Poe, Hali, and Brandon Flowers off the edges may not be the most conducive package to holding the RB to no gain. It might allow 5 or 6 yards.

The point is it's getting the job done in terms of POINTS. That's where it matters. What you're arguing with this YPC bullshit is meaningless.

It's not like our offense is blowing teams out early so they're forced to abandon the run. We've faced some pretty damn good RBs and run-heavy teams, and the damage on the scoreboard has been minimal.

I'll take that over your defense's supposed superior run-stopping ability. We'll see who gives up 39 points to the Colts and who doesn't.

Hint: It's not us.

I agree with the vast majority of this post. Your D is incredibly aggressive, and so far that is working wonders in the pass game, but seems to be failing in the run game. Pass defense is much more important than run defense in the NFL right now, so your defense is doing very well.

However, I don't think it will last. I think the poor showing in run defense is indicative of your success being more scheme-based than talent-based, and schemes get figured out. Houston and Poe both have absurd numbers of sacks per total pressure. Basically, if they aren't sacking the QB, they aren't having much effect in pass rush. This also points to scheming, that offenses aren't sure who is coming from where, and are getting confused. When the blocking is set up and executed properly, they have much less effect on the play. The effect of schemes like this is diminished as the season goes on. I've experienced this many times as a Broncos fan.

If KC's D was as talented as the ppg makes it seem, I don't think there'd be such a gap between yards per pass play (1st in the NFL) and yards per run play (29th in the NFL).

Then again, I could be wrong. I've been wrong plenty of times.

AussieChiefsFan · 10-27-2013, 03:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef

I agree with the vast majority of this post. Your D is incredibly aggressive, and so far that is working wonders in the pass game, but seems to be failing in the run game. Pass defense is much more important than run defense in the NFL right now, so your defense is doing very well.

However, I don't think it will last. I think the poor showing in run defense is indicative of your success being more scheme-based than talent-based, and schemes get figured out. Houston and Poe both have absurd numbers of sacks per total pressure. Basically, if they aren't sacking the QB, they aren't having much effect in pass rush. This also points to scheming, that offenses aren't sure who is coming from where, and are getting confused. When the blocking is set up and executed properly, they have much less effect on the play. The effect of schemes like this is diminished as the season goes on. I've experienced this many times as a Broncos fan.

If KC's D was as talented as the ppg makes it seem, I don't think there'd be such a gap between yards per pass play (1st in the NFL) and yards per run play (29th in the NFL).

Then again, I could be wrong. I've been wrong plenty of times.

So Houston's success is purely scheme based? So he was an average player last year?

AussieChiefsFan · 10-27-2013, 03:29 AM

My god. I just headed over to The Mane to the 'pleasent' surprise that my IP was no longer banned.

JFC, we thought Knowmo or MagicHef, or whoever else, were bad. Holy hell. That place is douche central.

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