Xs and Os: The Denver Pick Plays

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

There's a difference between an illegal pick-play and designed rub routes versus man coverage. These are the reasons why bunch formations even exist. It's only illegal if the receivers are actively blocking/knocking people over before the ball is in the air. Lern2football noobs.

Learn to watch the Denver offense. What you just described as being illegal is exactly what's happening. Truth be told, I don't give a shit either way. If Manning is on his ass, then it's tough to throw the football to a wide open receiver.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by Strongside

Learn to watch the Denver offense. What you just described as being illegal is exactly what's happening. Truth be told, I don't give a shit either way. If Manning is on his ass, then it's tough to throw the football to a wide open receiver.

lol not at all. You're exaggerating at best, refs would never flag that unless the receivers are blatantly blocking and don't even look like running routes. Plays like in the gif happen ALL THE TIME.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

lol not at all. You're exaggerating at best, refs would never flag that unless the receivers are blatantly blocking and don't even look like running routes. Plays like in the gif happen ALL THE TIME.

talk about exaggeration. THEY aren't running routes.....at the very least they are holding.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by stevieray

talk about exaggeration. THEY aren't running routes.....at the very least they are holding.

Incidental and unavoidable contact. Notice how they CONTINUE on with their routes. Completely legal play that happens in every single game. Out of all the illegal "pick plays" the one in the gif doesn't show it AT ALL. You guys seriously need to watch more football if you think that's a great example of an illegal pick play rofl.

Seriously. All that's shown is just a well executed play that was completely designed to beat the coverage that was played.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

Incidental and unavoidable contact. Notice how they CONTINUE on with their routes. Completely legal play that happens in every single game. Out of all the illegal "pick plays" the one in the gif doesn't show it AT ALL. You guys seriously need to watch more football if you think that's a great example of an illegal pick play rofl.

Seriously. All that's shown is just a well executed play that was completely designed to beat the coverage that was played.

Bullshit. Look at the second .gif. Moreno ALTERS HIS ROUTE and lowers his shoulder into the defender. He runs straight TO the defender; he's not running a route.

[Ragged Robin]

Originally Posted by Silock

Bullshit. Look at the second .gif. Moreno ALTERS HIS ROUTE and lowers his shoulder into the defender. He runs straight TO the defender; he's not running a route.

rofl you guys are grasping for straws. Look, I hate Denver as much as the next guy (well except the "fans" that are apparently expect us to lose to prove that Alex and the rest sucks), but the play shown is nowhere close to what would be considered an "illegal pick play." Please google the term or youtube or whatever to get a better idea of what it is. If the receivers completely truck/tackle or otherwise stop their route at the point of contact to blatantly block, it's an illegal pick play. What's shown is a perfectly legal rub route out of a bunch formation versus man coverage doing EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

rofl you guys are grasping for straws. Look, I hate Denver as much as the next guy (well except the "fans" that are apparently expect us to lose to prove that Alex and the rest sucks), but the play shown is nowhere close to what would be considered an "illegal pick play." Please google the term or youtube or whatever to get a better idea of what it is. If the receivers completely truck/tackle or otherwise stop their route at the point of contact to blatantly block, it's an illegal pick play. What's shown is a perfectly legal rub route out of a bunch formation versus man coverage doing EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

Bullshir. Only a complete donco ballwashet would defend these plays.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

rofl you guys are grasping for straws. Look, I hate Denver as much as the next guy (well except the "fans" that are apparently expect us to lose to prove that Alex and the rest sucks), but the play shown is nowhere close to what would be considered an "illegal pick play." Please google the term or youtube or whatever to get a better idea of what it is. If the receivers completely truck/tackle or otherwise stop their route at the point of contact to blatantly block, it's an illegal pick play. What's shown is a perfectly legal rub route out of a bunch formation versus man coverage doing EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS DESIGNED TO DO.

Bullshit. He clearly blocks the defender. Hardly a "rub route."

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Silock

Bullshit. Look at the second .gif. Moreno ALTERS HIS ROUTE and lowers his shoulder into the defender. He runs straight TO the defender; he's not running a route.

Don't bother trying to get through to this guy. He has been indoctrinated and is too far gone.

[Strongside]

Originally Posted by Silock

Bullshit. Look at the second .gif. Moreno ALTERS HIS ROUTE and lowers his shoulder into the defender. He runs straight TO the defender; he's not running a route.

He literally looks to be chasing the CB, instead of the other way around.

[KChiefer]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

Incidental and unavoidable contact. Notice how they CONTINUE on with their routes. Completely legal play that happens in every single game. Out of all the illegal "pick plays" the one in the gif doesn't show it AT ALL. You guys seriously need to watch more football if you think that's a great example of an illegal pick play rofl.

Seriously. All that's shown is just a well executed play that was completely designed to beat the coverage that was played.

Please just .

Thomas points to the spot where he wants Moreno to run his pick. And calling it a "rub" doesn't magically make it legal.

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by Ragged Robin

You guys seriously need to watch more football

, n00b...grabbing a DB by the shoulder pads is not incidental and unavoidable.