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Old 11-14-2013, 12:20 PM   #1
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You call it deceptive because you swear you have to throw deep to win.

Smith didn't. He was efficient. He won.
He won with defense. As he has always done.

He is the luckiest son of a bitch alive.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:25 PM   #2
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He won with defense. As he has always done.

He is the luckiest son of a bitch alive.
So the defense is how he completed 70% of his passes last year?

Again, explain to me what was 'deceptive' about Smith's 7.5 YPA average over his final 2 seasons in SF?
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:29 PM   #3
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So the defense is how he completed 70% of his passes last year?

Again, explain to me what was 'deceptive' about Smith's 7.5 YPA average over his final 2 seasons in SF?
It was deceptive as an indicator that he was throwing the ball down the field.

That's typically what people believe when they see a high YPA.

Milkman and I both regard YPC as a statistic that's far more indicative of what a QB is doing on the field.

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Old 11-14-2013, 12:31 PM   #4
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It was deceptive as an indicator that he was throwing the ball down the field.

That's typically what people believe when they see a high YPA.

Milkman and I both regard YPC as a statistic that's far more indicative of what a QB is doing on the field.

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You've been beating the hell out of the YPA drum this season. When did you switch to YPC?
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:32 PM   #5
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You've been beating the hell out of the YPA drum this season. When did you switch to YPC?
I have not.

I have quoted both as indications of Alex's ineptness.

And I've been harping on his YPC as a 49er since the trade.
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You've been beating the hell out of the YPA drum this season. When did you switch to YPC?
When it served his purpose.
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When it served his purpose.
They both serve my purpose.

Alex sucks in almost every way.
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Old 11-14-2013, 12:36 PM   #9
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It was deceptive as an indicator that he was throwing the ball down the field.

That's typically what people believe when they see a high YPA.

Milkman and I both regard YPC as a statistic that's far more indicative of what a QB is doing on the field.

Thank you, come again.
Says who? Who here has suggested that YPA is some outstanding metric of downfield passing? Your reasoning is wholly circular. "YPC is the key element to winning"...and now you're conceding that it only shows if someone is passing downfield well. Again, how does that prove your premise that downfield passing is the most critical component to winning?

And hey, if milkman, whos been crushing Smith from the start believes it, it must be true. Today may be the worst appeal to authority one ever seen
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Says who? Who here has suggested that YPA is some outstanding metric of downfield passing? Your reasoning is wholly circular. "YPC is the key element to winning"...and now you're conceding that it only shows if someone is passing downfield well. Again, how does that prove your premise that downfield passing is the most critical component to winning?

And hey, if milkman, whos been crushing Smith from the start believes it, it must be true. Today may be the worst appeal to authority one ever seen
He uses whatever he thinks fits his narrative, its that simple.

First off YPC are not more important than YPA. Anyone who believes that is ****ing stupid. If you gain the most yards you can per attempt that is the entire point of passing the damn ball.

Secondly something that Clay continually ignores (because it ignores his narrative) is Smith's struggles are actually more to do with his issues on short passes at the 10 yard area. 3 of 4 INT's have happened on passes 10 yards or less and he is only completing at 60% rate. 3 TD's 3 INt's.

His rating is highest on passes 11-20 yards down field and he has a 3-1 TD ratio.

I would argue his short passing needs more work than his deep passing. But that would imply Clay is ****ing clueless.
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is Smith's struggles are actually more to do with his issues on short passes at the 10 yard area. 3 of 4 INT's have happened on passes 10 yards or less and he is only completing at 60% rate. 3 TD's 3 INt's.
That's because that's pretty much all he throws!
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His rating is highest on passes 11-20 yards down field and he has a 3-1 TD ratio.
that's only because he throws those if a dude is wide wide wide wide wide wide open...sometimes maybe
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