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Old 11-19-2013, 11:54 PM   #9121
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Chiefs – Three Performances of Note

A New Alex Smith?

The biggest knock I and others have had on the Chiefs has been their lack of a passing attack, especially one downfield. Well, against Denver we got a glimpse of something that with some more fine tuning might add another dimension to this offense.

The previously gun shy Alex Smith (+1.6) would attempt 14 passes over 10 yards in the air and the biggest shame was that his receivers (four drops, three of them critical) couldn’t make the catches to give Smith that stat to go with his excellent throws. These four drops don’t even include his peach of a throw that bested the coverage of Chris Harris with 8:25 to go in Q2 (the play was called back for holding away from the target), where Smith fitted it in between the sideline and Harris only for Bowe to drop.

Still it was encouraging to see the team open up the playbook and by and large have their quarterback respond.


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Old 11-20-2013, 12:07 AM   #9122
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Chiefs – Three Performances of Note

A New Alex Smith?

The biggest knock I and others have had on the Chiefs has been their lack of a passing attack, especially one downfield. Well, against Denver we got a glimpse of something that with some more fine tuning might add another dimension to this offense.

The previously gun shy Alex Smith (+1.6) would attempt 14 passes over 10 yards in the air and the biggest shame was that his receivers (four drops, three of them critical) couldn’t make the catches to give Smith that stat to go with his excellent throws. These four drops don’t even include his peach of a throw that bested the coverage of Chris Harris with 8:25 to go in Q2 (the play was called back for holding away from the target), where Smith fitted it in between the sideline and Harris only for Bowe to drop.

Still it was encouraging to see the team open up the playbook and by and large have their quarterback respond.

This is a pretty good sum up

The one thing that Alex did poorly was he held on to the ball to long and took some horrible sacks. Outside of that which did really hurt Alex was good against Denver for the most part.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:15 AM   #9123
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Yes, he sucks.

We get it.

I hate him being here more than anyone.

He is.

It's like your wife having a bladder infection: it's painful for all but most of all the husband because he has to put up with it...
Not everyone gets it yet. Some think he is a winner still.
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:18 AM   #9124
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Not everyone gets it yet. Some think he is a winner still.
I was tired of arguing against him when it was a rumor.

At this point I'm an old man playing chess in the park...
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Old 11-20-2013, 12:18 AM   #9125
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I love how the Alice slurpers have now hopped on the PFF bandwagon because they wrote something nice about their messiah - yet when Clay uses their stats to back up his anti-Smiff arguments, then it's a crackpot site that doesn't know shit about football.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:02 AM   #9126
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I love how the Alice slurpers have now hopped on the PFF bandwagon because they wrote something nice about their messiah - yet when Clay uses their stats to back up his anti-Smiff arguments, then it's a crackpot site that doesn't know shit about football.
You've got this wrong. We think Clay is the crackpot not the site. Can't seem to read the data correctly much less interpret it.

And why are you here? Go troll your own message boards and bask in the glory of having the type of QB Clay masturbates. Or has that gotten old for you after a near-decade of underachievement.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:03 AM   #9127
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But your god PFF graded Alex better then Manning on Sunday night.
B/c Manning did what he had to do to win. He didn't care about his stat line. He knew he had to get rid of the back early, before routes had developed at all, so he did. It wasn't going to be pretty, but it basically had to be done.

Unlike Alex, who couldn't bare the thought of a hailmary tainting his stat line, so he took what was statistically the worst choice for the team instead, and ran. Add in that he is currently a white man, and you can see why it's so bothersome.
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:10 AM   #9128
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You've got this wrong. We think Clay is the crackpot not the site. Can't seem to read the data correctly much less interpret it.

And why are you here? Go troll your own message boards and bask in the glory of having the type of QB Clay masturbates. Or has that gotten old for you after a near-decade of underachievement.
I'm confused. How exactly is Clay misreading PFF's data?
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Old 11-20-2013, 01:17 AM   #9129
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I'm confused. How exactly is Clay misreading PFF's data?
You sure that's the horse you want to hitch your cart to?
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:26 AM   #9130
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Chiefs – Three Performances of Note

A New Alex Smith?

The biggest knock I and others have had on the Chiefs has been their lack of a passing attack, especially one downfield. Well, against Denver we got a glimpse of something that with some more fine tuning might add another dimension to this offense.

The previously gun shy Alex Smith (+1.6) would attempt 14 passes over 10 yards in the air and the biggest shame was that his receivers (four drops, three of them critical) couldn’t make the catches to give Smith that stat to go with his excellent throws. These four drops don’t even include his peach of a throw that bested the coverage of Chris Harris with 8:25 to go in Q2 (the play was called back for holding away from the target), where Smith fitted it in between the sideline and Harris only for Bowe to drop.

Still it was encouraging to see the team open up the playbook and by and large have their quarterback respond.


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Yup. Exactly. What you see without blind anti-homerism.

If it weren't for all the critical drops I think we win that game, or are right in it at the end.
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Old 11-20-2013, 06:45 AM   #9131
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Yup. Exactly. What you see without blind anti-homerism.

If it weren't for all the critical drops I think we win that game, or are right in it at the end.
well, there were lots of chances to win that game : 1st and goal inside the 5 but only coming away with 3 pts was a killer...and when you're down 2 scores with 10 min in the game, you can't punt to peyton manning from the 40 and expect to win.

and yeah, WRs are supposed to hang on to the ball. it's their main job description.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:15 AM   #9132
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Colin Kaepernick has 20 starts.

Alex Smith has 90 starts.

By 90 starts, you know exactly what you have.
Not necessarily true though. I liken it to the momentum of a train. 2011. New coaches, new system... train gets to churning the wheels. Takes all year to get a decent speed up, but it can go faster. 2012. The train is still not full speed, but it is clearly faster than the year before. Train then gets derailed before it can reach top speed.

2013. New coaches, new system... train gets to churning the wheels. And here we go again.

All of these environmental and coaching changes... all of these years. Starting over really puts the breaks on. So by 90 starts.. at least in this case.. still no one truly knows. This is why the Alex Smith career is so fascinating. There are QBs that quickly excel thanks to good surroundings... there are QBs that quickly flame out due to poor surroundings or mental flame-outs. There are QBs that get determined to be backup-quality-only after a few years. The reason Alex has stuck around and survived it all is due to the circumstances around him being at fault.. and the coaches see this.

It could easily be that, given the chance, Smith turns his 2013 80 QBR into 2014 90+ QBR. He may even get it up there or close by the end of this December.

No one can really say... but what is clear is, you don't "know exactly what you have." The jump from SF's 2011 to 2012 offensive efficiency was just too large to ignore. People said that 2011 was the best Alex could ever be... yet wrong again. The KC offense should be excited and encouraged to get that in 2014. A full offseason and some upgrade at WR and OL, and this team can compete for the playoffs for years.
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Old 11-20-2013, 07:41 AM   #9133
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Just to keep this on a level of intelligence, lets do a little reality check.

Colin Kaepernick has 20 starts.

Alex Smith has 90 starts.

By 90 starts, you know exactly what you have. I wouldn't expect much more. At 20 starts, a QB is just a pup. Compare Cam Newton today to Cam Newton at 20 starts. He was struggling at 20 starts.

If you weren't just a Smith lover trolling my post, if you really believed that the future potential of a 20 game starter is the same as a 90 game starter, you would be laughed off this forum in shame.

Hint: Drew Brees was let go by the Chargers after 58 starts. He is not an elite NFL QB. I'll bet the Chargers wish they didn't give up on Brees when they did.
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Old 11-20-2013, 08:21 AM   #9134
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Not necessarily true though. I liken it to the momentum of a train. 2011. New coaches, new system... train gets to churning the wheels. Takes all year to get a decent speed up, but it can go faster. 2012. The train is still not full speed, but it is clearly faster than the year before. Train then gets derailed before it can reach top speed.

2013. New coaches, new system... train gets to churning the wheels. And here we go again.

All of these environmental and coaching changes... all of these years. Starting over really puts the breaks on. So by 90 starts.. at least in this case.. still no one truly knows. This is why the Alex Smith career is so fascinating. There are QBs that quickly excel thanks to good surroundings... there are QBs that quickly flame out due to poor surroundings or mental flame-outs. There are QBs that get determined to be backup-quality-only after a few years. The reason Alex has stuck around and survived it all is due to the circumstances around him being at fault.. and the coaches see this.

It could easily be that, given the chance, Smith turns his 2013 80 QBR into 2014 90+ QBR. He may even get it up there or close by the end of this December.

No one can really say... but what is clear is, you don't "know exactly what you have." The jump from SF's 2011 to 2012 offensive efficiency was just too large to ignore. People said that 2011 was the best Alex could ever be... yet wrong again. The KC offense should be excited and encouraged to get that in 2014. A full offseason and some upgrade at WR and OL, and this team can compete for the playoffs for years.

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