Football 2014 Semifinalists for the Hall of Fame - Page 2

**Rain Man** · 12:50 PM

You can add Claude Humphrey and Ray Guy as the senior candidates.

This seems like a pretty weak pool to me. Will Shields should go in this year without a doubt.

http://www.profootballhof.com/footba...finalists.aspx

The Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee chose the 25 modern-era semifinalists from the previously announced list of 126 nominees.

Four first-year eligible candidates – linebacker Derrick Brooks, coach Tony Dungy, wide receiver Marvin Harrison, and tackle Walter Jones – are among the 25 semifinalists being considered for the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014.

In addition to the first-year eligible nominees, two other previously eligible candidates, coach Jimmy Johnson and guard Steve Wisniewski, made it to the semifinalist list for the first time. Each of the remaining individuals on the Selection Committee’s list has been a semifinalist at least once prior to this year.

2014 SEMIFINALISTS

Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings
Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets
Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers
Derrick Brooks, LB – 1995-2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers
Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings
Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos
Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers
Tony Dungy, Coach – 1996-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2002-08 Indianapolis Colts
Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers
Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys
Marvin Harrison, WR – 1996-2008 Indianapolis Colts
Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins
Jimmy Johnson, Coach – 1989-1993 Dallas Cowboys, 1996-99 Miami Dolphins
Walter Jones, – T – 1997-2008 Seattle Seahawks
John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos
Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos
Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins
Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs
Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants
Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League
Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams
Steve Wisniewski, G – 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders
George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League

Garcia Bronco · 11-21-2013, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Molitoth

I'm sorry but Terrell Davis is not HOF worthy in todays standards, imo.

And neither iis Gayle Sayers, but he's in there.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-21-2013, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

This isn't about Super Bowl wins. If it is...then a number of people need to come out

Tim Brown - The second best WR of his era.
Paul Tags - The best Commish the league has ever had
Terrell Davis - Dominated the league and was the best runningback in football for 3 straight years with Barry Sanders in the league
Ray Guy - Should already be in, one of the best punters in NFL history
Karl Mecklenberg - okay...this one is pure bias, but he was a great linebacker in the league

Bullshit. Everything is about Super Bowl wins.

Tim Brown has no business in the HOF if Andre Reed isn't there.

Terrell Davis?

Tags was garbage. The press hated him.

Mecklenberg is not a HOFer.

**Rausch** · 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

At no time was/is Bettis a HoF runningback.

His numbers and production are top 5 all time.

ALL TIME...

Dayze · 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM

Derrick Brooks
Marvin Harrison
and Kevin Green are the stand-outs from that list for me.

*edit*...Andre Reed (didn't see him the first time through)

**Rausch** · 11-21-2013, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit. Everything is about Super Bowl wins.

No, the HOF is about recognizing the individual.

**Rain Man** · 11-21-2013, 12:46 PM

My thoughts on deserving guys (in order):

Will Shields - Come on. 12 pro bowls and you've made the guy wait for two years, and you let that slug Jonathan Ogden push ahead of him last year. No-brainer as the #1 pick.

Morten Andersen - Arguably the best kicker in the history of the NFL. The dominant long-range kicker of his era and scored a zillion points.

Joe Jacoby - I wasn't a Redskins fan, but this guy was the best lineman of his era. Absolutely dominant run blocker.

Kevin Greene - Time to let this guy in.

Aeneas Williams - I think he deserves it. I screwed up and didn't vote for him, but I'd add it.

Guys who I think will go in, but not this year: Brooks, Tagliabue (it's a given), and Marvin Harrison (who might be first ballot if he didn't engage in gunplay). Oh, and add Coryell into that group as a late edit. In a weak year, Charles Haley, Walter Jones, and Roger Craig might slip in, with Jones being the best of that group. None of the others should make it.

On the senior ballot, I think it's time to put Guy in. I don't think he was a better punter than Jerrell Wilson, but Guy has the reputation and should break the apartheid on punters in the HoF. Claude Humphrey was very good, but I don't think he's a HoFer.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-21-2013, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

And neither iis Gayle Sayers, but he's in there.

Different era, multi-purpose player.

Davis was a very good running back for a few years but injuries limited his potential.

That doesn't make him a HOFer, especially when compared to dominating players with longevity (Jones, Shields, Reed).

Garcia Bronco · 11-21-2013, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Bullshit. Everything is about Super Bowl wins.
.

Not relative to the Hof. If we were assigning say franchise worth in the NFL then Super Bowls wins would matter. We would put a 40 year cap on it though. Oh shit...NM...then you and your team would lose again. :P

**Rausch** · 11-21-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

No, not before Strahan, Jones, Shields, Don ****ing Coryell or Derrick Brooks.

I'd put Bettis in before Shields.

Bettis was a true freak. Once in a generation (or more) guy.

I'd also put him in before Brooks and **** Strahan...

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-21-2013, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

No, the HOF is about recognizing the individual.

Not really.

The voters seem to favor guys with rings over individual achievements, which is why it took five long years for DT and two years and counting for Will Shields.

Garcia Bronco · 11-21-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Different era, multi-purpose player.

Davis was a very good running back for a few years but injuries limited his potential.

That doesn't make him a HOFer, especially when compared to dominating players with longevity (Jones, Shields, Reed).

Davis was the greatest in the league. Its okay...you can admit it. Just like I can say that Shields was a great lineman. But any great RB, like Davis, should be ahead of any lineman.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-21-2013, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I'd put Bettis in before Shields.

Bettis was a true freak. Once in a generation (or more) guy.

I'd also put him in before Brooks and **** Strahan...

Wow, fully disagree.

If you put in Bettis, then you have to put in Eddie George.

Is Eddie George a HOFer?

Garcia Bronco · 11-21-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

His numbers and production are top 5 all time.

ALL TIME...

Only because he hung around forever. If we're going to use the longevity against some like TD, then it should be used against someone like Bettis.

Dayze · 11-21-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Wow, fully disagree.

If you put in Bettis, then you have to put in Eddie George.

Is Eddie George a HOFer?

this is a damned good point.

**DaneMcCloud** · 11-21-2013, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Garcia Bronco

Davis was the greatest in the league. Its okay...you can admit it. Just like I can say that Shields was a great lineman. But any great RB, like Davis, should be ahead of any lineman.

Your knowledge of the NFL would fit in a thimble with room to spare

View Poll Results: Most deserving - Pick up to 5 modern candidates, and up to two senior candidates.
George Young	2	2.33%
Steve Wisniewski	4	4.65%
Aeneas Williams	8	9.30%
Paul Tagliabue	16	18.60%
Michael Strahan	37	43.02%
Will Shields	73	84.88%
Andre Reed	15	17.44%
Kark Mecklenburg	6	6.98%
John Lynch	6	6.98%
Walter Jones	5	5.81%
Jimmy Johnson	9	10.47%
Joe Jacoby	6	6.98%
Marvin Harrison	31	36.05%
Charles Haley	13	15.12%
Kevin Greene	18	20.93%
Tony Dungy	5	5.81%
Edward Debartolo, Jr.	3	3.49%
Terrell Davis	7	8.14%
Roger Craig	11	12.79%
Don Coryell	20	23.26%
Tim Brown	23	26.74%
Derrick Brooks	22	25.58%
Jerome Bettis	14	16.28%
Steve Atwater	9	10.47%
Morten Andersen	17	19.77%
None of the modern-era people deserve to go in.	0	0%
Senior Candidate - Claude Humphrey	6	6.98%
Senior Candidate - Ray Guy	47	54.65%
None of the senior-era people deserve to go in.	5	5.81%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 86. You may not vote on this poll

11-21-2013, 12:24 PM
Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-652449 VARSITY	2014 Semifinalists for the Hall of Fame You can add Claude Humphrey and Ray Guy as the senior candidates. This seems like a pretty weak pool to me. Will Shields should go in this year without a doubt. http://www.profootballhof.com/footba...finalists.aspx The Hall of Fame’s Selection Committee chose the 25 modern-era semifinalists from the previously announced list of 126 nominees. Four first-year eligible candidates – linebacker Derrick Brooks, coach Tony Dungy, wide receiver Marvin Harrison, and tackle Walter Jones – are among the 25 semifinalists being considered for the Pro Football Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014. In addition to the first-year eligible nominees, two other previously eligible candidates, coach Jimmy Johnson and guard Steve Wisniewski, made it to the semifinalist list for the first time. Each of the remaining individuals on the Selection Committee’s list has been a semifinalist at least once prior to this year. 2014 SEMIFINALISTS Morten Andersen, K – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings Steve Atwater, S – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets Jerome Bettis, RB – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers Derrick Brooks, LB – 1995-2008 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Tim Brown, WR/KR – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers Don Coryell, Coach – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers Roger Craig, RB – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings Terrell Davis, RB – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos Edward DeBartolo, Jr., Owner – 1977-2000 San Francisco 49ers Tony Dungy, Coach – 1996-2001 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2002-08 Indianapolis Colts Kevin Greene, LB/DE – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers Charles Haley, DE/LB – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys Marvin Harrison, WR – 1996-2008 Indianapolis Colts Joe Jacoby, T – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins Jimmy Johnson, Coach – 1989-1993 Dallas Cowboys, 1996-99 Miami Dolphins Walter Jones, – T – 1997-2008 Seattle Seahawks John Lynch, FS – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos Karl Mecklenburg, LB – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos Andre Reed, WR – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins Will Shields, G – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs Michael Strahan, DE – 1993-2007 New York Giants Paul Tagliabue, Commissioner – 1989-2006 National Football League Aeneas Williams, CB/S – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams Steve Wisniewski, G – 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders George Young, Contributor – 1968-1974 Baltimore Colts, 1975-78 Miami Dolphins, 1979-1997 New York Giants, 1998-2001 National Football League Last edited by Rain Man; 11-21-2013 at 12:50 PM..
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Rain Man Seize life. Be an ermine. Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: My house Casino cash: $-652449 VARSITY	My thoughts on deserving guys (in order): Will Shields - Come on. 12 pro bowls and you've made the guy wait for two years, and you let that slug Jonathan Ogden push ahead of him last year. No-brainer as the #1 pick. Morten Andersen - Arguably the best kicker in the history of the NFL. The dominant long-range kicker of his era and scored a zillion points. Joe Jacoby - I wasn't a Redskins fan, but this guy was the best lineman of his era. Absolutely dominant run blocker. Kevin Greene - Time to let this guy in. Aeneas Williams - I think he deserves it. I screwed up and didn't vote for him, but I'd add it. Guys who I think will go in, but not this year: Brooks, Tagliabue (it's a given), and Marvin Harrison (who might be first ballot if he didn't engage in gunplay). Oh, and add Coryell into that group as a late edit. In a weak year, Charles Haley, Walter Jones, and Roger Craig might slip in, with Jones being the best of that group. None of the others should make it. On the senior ballot, I think it's time to put Guy in. I don't think he was a better punter than Jerrell Wilson, but Guy has the reputation and should break the apartheid on punters in the HoF. Claude Humphrey was very good, but I don't think he's a HoFer. __________________ Active fan of the greatest team in NFL history.
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