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Old 11-22-2013, 12:28 PM   #1
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anyone see the latest theory? it was on Discovery or something of the likes; I can't remember it exactly, but he theory was that one of the secret service men accidently shot him from behind after the shot through his neck / into Connelly. apparently after the first shot, there was footage secret service agent reaching for an M16 (or something similar) on the floor board of his car and when he raised it, it somehow went off.

something to do with the type of bullet used, and how the type that blew his head to bits was a different type of bullet than the one they recovered.

it was interesting, but I don't know how much stock to put into it.
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Old 11-22-2013, 12:31 PM   #2
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anyone see the latest theory? it was on Discovery or something of the likes; I can't remember it exactly, but he theory was that one of the secret service men accidently shot him from behind after the shot through his neck / into Connelly. apparently after the first shot, there was footage secret service agent reaching for an M16 (or something similar) on the floor board of his car and when he raised it, it somehow went off.

something to do with the type of bullet used, and how the type that blew his head to bits was a different type of bullet than the one they recovered.

it was interesting, but I don't know how much stock to put into it.
Zero would be the correct amount.
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anyone see the latest theory? it was on Discovery or something of the likes; I can't remember it exactly, but he theory was that one of the secret service men accidently shot him from behind after the shot through his neck / into Connelly. apparently after the first shot, there was footage secret service agent reaching for an M16 (or something similar) on the floor board of his car and when he raised it, it somehow went off.

something to do with the type of bullet used, and how the type that blew his head to bits was a different type of bullet than the one they recovered.

it was interesting, but I don't know how much stock to put into it.
I've seen a video on that theory too, I don't think that's what happened imo.
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anyone see the latest theory? it was on Discovery or something of the likes; I can't remember it exactly, but he theory was that one of the secret service men accidently shot him from behind after the shot through his neck / into Connelly. apparently after the first shot, there was footage secret service agent reaching for an M16 (or something similar) on the floor board of his car and when he raised it, it somehow went off.

something to do with the type of bullet used, and how the type that blew his head to bits was a different type of bullet than the one they recovered.

it was interesting, but I don't know how much stock to put into it.
Yeah, Cosmo nailed it...zero is the right amount, but the Australian guy who is supporting the guy with the SS theory is the same guy who ballistically proved that there was another shooter on the County Records Building.

I've been through this so many times and there's been so much that can be discussed over and over, but the truth is that much of the evidence has been destroyed, mishandled, contaminated, etc. that we'll never know the full truth. But to keep pushing the notion that this was done by a single gunman? Puhlease.
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anyone see the latest theory? it was on Discovery or something of the likes; I can't remember it exactly, but he theory was that one of the secret service men accidently shot him from behind after the shot through his neck / into Connelly. apparently after the first shot, there was footage secret service agent reaching for an M16 (or something similar) on the floor board of his car and when he raised it, it somehow went off.

something to do with the type of bullet used, and how the type that blew his head to bits was a different type of bullet than the one they recovered.

it was interesting, but I don't know how much stock to put into it.
Yeah I saw the same program. It's all horsesh**. Anybody who is a hunter and has done a ton of target shooting will tell you after looking at the 'head kill shot' in the Zapruder film that shot came from the front(a la grassy knoll). I do believe there was someone in TBDB but it wasn't Oswald who took the shot. Yes Oswald was there in the TBDB but he was there to let the one of the snipers up to the 6th floor while the other was behind the fence up on the grassy knoll. BTW it was not a Mannilicher Carcano that was originally found in the sniper's nest in the TBDB but it was a Mauser. Bottom line this particular program never convincingly explained away the grassy knoll shot. They just glossed over it without any plausible scientific answer.

Like many of you I have been fascinated with the JFK assassination and have read a manure load. You learn real quick in doing this who is credible and who are not necessarily plants by the govt keeping the con of lone gunman theory going but willing to do the govt.'s bidding writing books and doing documentaries of mis-direction as it still goes on to this very day(Posner, Bugliosi, O'Reilly, among many others etc...

But for those interested if I could recommend a few books that will not waste your time it would be 2 books by Lamar Waldron(Legacy of Secrecy and Hidden History of the JFK assassination) the next book would be by John Davis-Mafia Kingfish and then Jerome Corsi's book "Who really killed Kennedy" ? The books Hidden History of the JFK Assassination and "Who really killed Kennedy" are brand new off the press and I would probably recommend those first and if you want more in depth govt coverup info as well as the Mafia connection then read the Legacy of Secrecy and Kingfish second.

Waldron and Corsi do their homework and are the first ones standing in line for the latest released info on the JFK assassination when the govt decides it wants to release more info(Freedom of Info Act). Understand there are still thousands if not millions of pages of research still not released on JFK and his death and the infamous "Babushka Lady" who was filming straight across from the "head kill shot' that looked up into the grassy knoll her film has never been seen. Why, if there was no grassy knoll shooter ?

Good stuff for sure IF you are willing to read !!
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Yeah I saw the same program. It's all horsesh**. Anybody who is a hunter and has done a ton of target shooting will tell you after looking at the 'head kill shot' in the Zapruder film that shot came from the front(a la grassy knoll). I do believe there was someone in TBDB but it wasn't Oswald who took the shot. Yes Oswald was there in the TBDB but he was there to let the one of the snipers up to the 6th floor while the other was behind the fence up on the grassy knoll. BTW it was not a Mannilicher Carcano that was originally found in the sniper's nest in the TBDB but it was a Mauser. Bottom line this particular program never convincingly explained away the grassy knoll shot. They just glossed over it without any plausible scientific answer.

Like many of you I have been fascinated with the JFK assassination and have read a manure load. You learn real quick in doing this who is credible and who are not necessarily plants by the govt keeping the con of lone gunman theory going but willing to do the govt.'s bidding writing books and doing documentaries of mis-direction as it still goes on to this very day(Posner, Bugliosi, O'Reilly, among many others etc...

But for those interested if I could recommend a few books that will not waste your time it would be 2 books by Lamar Waldron(Legacy of Secrecy and Hidden History of the JFK assassination) the next book would be by John Davis-Mafia Kingfish and then Jerome Corsi's book "Who really killed Kennedy" ? The books Hidden History of the JFK Assassination and "Who really killed Kennedy" are brand new off the press and I would probably recommend those first and if you want more in depth govt coverup info as well as the Mafia connection then read the Legacy of Secrecy and Kingfish second.

Waldron and Corsi do their homework and are the first ones standing in line for the latest released info on the JFK assassination when the govt decides it wants to release more info(Freedom of Info Act). Understand there are still thousands if not millions of pages of research still not released on JFK and his death and the infamous "Babushka Lady" who was filming straight across from the "head kill shot' that looked up into the grassy knoll her film has never been seen. Why, if there was no grassy knoll shooter ?

Good stuff for sure IF you are willing to read !!
Anyone who understands physics, specifically the conservation of energy and the conservation of momentum know it came from behind.

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Not trying to give you sh** here but anyone who has done a lot of target shooting and hunting with a rifle would beg to differ with your govt propaganda physics links you obviously buy into. Why would Jackie get up and go back to grab pieces of his skull and brain matter then if the shot was from the back ? She would be going forward to do that and Connelly's wife would have been wearing JFK's brain matter for sure but she wasn't. Kennedy's kill shot was from the front and done with a hollow point bullet that explodes on impact and you can clearly see from the film the movement of the flap of skull hair scalp that proves this upon impact not to mention when you actually pause the film right as the bullet hits Kennedy you can see 2 things, the skull and brain matter shoot up and and go back but even more revealing is you can see the rear of Kennedy's head which shows no impact from the rear when the kill shot is made. That brain matter doesn't shoot up and go back IF the kill shot is coming from the rear but rather is all over Mrs. Connolly.
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Yeah I saw the same program. It's all horsesh**. Anybody who is a hunter and has done a ton of target shooting will tell you after looking at the 'head kill shot' in the Zapruder film that shot came from the front(a la grassy knoll). I do believe there was someone in TBDB but it wasn't Oswald who took the shot. Yes Oswald was there in the TBDB but he was there to let the one of the snipers up to the 6th floor while the other was behind the fence up on the grassy knoll. BTW it was not a Mannilicher Carcano that was originally found in the sniper's nest in the TBDB but it was a Mauser. Bottom line this particular program never convincingly explained away the grassy knoll shot. They just glossed over it without any plausible scientific answer.

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Good stuff for sure IF you are willing to read !!
Yes Sir. Years later when the Zapruder film was finally released, as soon as I saw it, I was convinced that the head shot came from the front and not the back. As you said, and I agree, no one who has done any hunting or target shooting would buy that.

I don't know why things happen the way they do, But I know that there has always been some fishy sh%t that has accompanied the killing. Everything was taken care of so….efficiently.

And, there are still some 500 pages that the CIA won't release (and probably never will) that most likely lays it out in great detail. Those were strange days. Strange strange days.
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Yeah I saw the same program. It's all horsesh**. Anybody who is a hunter and has done a ton of target shooting will tell you after looking at the 'head kill shot' in the Zapruder film that shot came from the front(a la grassy knoll). !


Maybe the best indication of this being complete nonsense: shrink thinks it's true.
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The word "nonsense" and cosmo how ironically synonymous
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Maybe the best indication of this being complete nonsense: shrink thinks it's true.
Please tell us all, what happened. How it went down. Which theories only a right wing nut job would believe & which theories are fact, because your LINK of choice says so.


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Oswald shot JFK from the 6th floor of the Texas School Book Depository.
No other shooters.

I didn't say anything about RWNJs, although they do seem more likely to buy into these conspiracies. Plenty on both sides believe this JFK stuff.
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no link or facts? thats it huh? I guess you were there & watched Oswald shoot JFK?
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no link or facts? thats it huh? I guess you watched Oswald shoot JFK?
I gave you the facts. There's plenty of links that are easy to find. It's kind of a big story.
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