Chiefs LNBS: Can Alex Smith be a Franchise Quarterback? - Page 11

**BossChief** · 12-05-2013, 12:05 AM

He has been playing at a high level the last few games.

Was it just the defenses he faced being bad, or is he thinking less and therefore playing faster?

He is pushing the ball down the field a lot more. His passes are coming out on time more frequently. He is throwing into tight windows. He is using his mobility as a weapon. His ball placement has been pretty good.

I view a "franchise quarterback" as a guy that you can get to championship games with and a guy that gives you a chance to win a superbowl.

If you were to ask me a few weeks ago if Alex can be that guy, I'd laugh and discard that notion.

Now, I'm not so sure.

Have the last few games changed your opinion of Alex?

**BossChief** · 12-05-2013, 02:46 PM

I think a lot of you need to go back and rewatch that Denver game without "the emotion of the moment".

Alex played a whale of a game.

If he gave us that level of play every week, he would be in the next elite class once Manning, Brady and Brees begin to decline.

I'm actually pretty excited to watch it all play out.

If they can upgrade from Avery at the second receiver spot to a legit NFL #2, the line continues to protect and Alex continues to grow into the position...this can be a pretty potent offense going forward.

Mix that with a young, up and coming defense with talent at all levels and te future is bright in KC.

-hoping posts like this don't come back and burn me-

jd1020 · 12-05-2013, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

WHEN HE WAS DILFERED...

This is why Alex has fans.

The guy plays good for a couple games and you get that "Well maybe he can be the guy." Then he plays like dogshit again. One doesn't start for a team for 7+ years while not showing at least a little bit of promise before shitting down his leg.

**HemiEd** · 12-05-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Pam Oliver's Forehead

Cassel played good football for over a month in 2010.

If anything, this fan base should have learned from that. Some haven't.

Alex needs to keep up this level of play through the playoff game. Then maybe I'll begin to feel better about him.

Wow, that is a switch on your part. At one time, you wouldn't even give him credit for the one GOOD game he had as a Chief. The Seattle game, when he looked like a legit QB.

**Rausch** · 12-05-2013, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

I think a lot of you need to go back and rewatch that Denver game without "the emotion of the moment".

Alex played a whale of a game.

He was a competent field general.

Vs SD he had some very questionable throws but he lead the team down the field to score the game winner. The D puked up that game as well.

2nd Den game he $#it bed in the first half and roared the 2nd. Problem was the 2nd half no one could catch and our D played like total dog$#it.

As a whole, as a complete team, we are still heavy with crap-tastic talent.

It was never going to be fixed in 1 year.

It is what it is - an amazing first year in a rebuild.

If you expect or demand more than that I suppose that's more on who you are than they are...

keg in kc · 12-05-2013, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

But thats where you get into the whole "elite or bust" rhetoric, and I don't think you have to have an elite QB to win a SB.

He didn't ask if you could win a SB with him. He asked if he was a franchise QB. Of course you could win one with him. You could theoretically win one with basically any QB if you build a strong enough defense and running game and get every possible bounce to go your way...

KC_Connection · 12-05-2013, 02:53 PM

Tony Romo is significantly better at the QB position than Alex Smith. Is Tony Romo a "franchise QB?"

jd1020 · 12-05-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Tony Romo is significantly better at the QB position than Alex Smith. Is Tony Romo a "franchise QB?"

There are certainly QBs in the league better than Romo but I wouldn't complain one bit to have Romo be my QB for 5+ years.

O.city · 12-05-2013, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc

He didn't ask if you could win a SB with him. He asked if he was a franchise QB. Of course you could win one with him. You could theoretically win one with basically any QB if you build a strong enough defense and running game and get every possible bounce to go your way...

I don't necessarily think in todays NFL you can build a defense that strong anyway.

O.city · 12-05-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Tony Romo is significantly better at the QB position than Alex Smith. Is Tony Romo a "franchise QB?"

I'd take 2 or 3 guys over Romo right now, in the entire NFL.

He's abosutely a franchise QB and he's damn close to being an elite.

**The Franchise** · 12-05-2013, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

He was a competent field general.

Vs SD he had some very questionable throws but he lead the team down the field to score the game winner. The D puked up that game as well.

2nd Den game he $#it bed in the first half and roared the 2nd. Problem was the 2nd half no one could catch and our D played like total dog$#it.

As a whole, as a complete team, we are still heavy with crap-tastic talent.

It was never going to be fixed in 1 year.

It is what it is - an amazing first year in a rebuild.

If you expect or demand more than that I suppose that's more on who you are than they are...

Shit the bed = throwing 2 TDs and a pick?

KC_Connection · 12-05-2013, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

There are certainly QBs in the league better than Romo but I wouldn't complain one bit to have Romo be my QB for 5+ years.

Romo might be on the fringe of what I would consider to be in that category. Smith certainly isn't near that fringe.

**ptlyon** · 12-05-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Tony Romo is significantly better at the QB position than Alex Smith. Is Tony Romo a "franchise QB?"

The last contract he signed says he is

KC_Connection · 12-05-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I'd take 2 or 3 guys over Romo right now, in the entire NFL.

He's abosutely a franchise QB and he's damn close to being an elite.

I guess we have different definitions of franchise QB, then. I'd put him more around 8-10.

jd1020 · 12-05-2013, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ptlyon

The last contract he signed says he is

Ya but Jerry Jones is an idiot so that's not really a good argument.

His play makes him a franchise QB.

O.city · 12-05-2013, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

I guess we have different definitions of franchise QB, then. I'd put him more around 8-10.

Romo?

I've always thought Romo gets a bad rap in Dallas for being a "choker". He's carried a shit roster for the better part of the past 5 years.

Obviously you've got your Manning, Brady, and Brees, but IMHO, Romo is Rodgers without a SB win.

12-05-2013, 12:05 AM
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1815912	LNBS: Can Alex Smith be a Franchise Quarterback? He has been playing at a high level the last few games. Was it just the defenses he faced being bad, or is he thinking less and therefore playing faster? He is pushing the ball down the field a lot more. His passes are coming out on time more frequently. He is throwing into tight windows. He is using his mobility as a weapon. His ball placement has been pretty good. I view a "franchise quarterback" as a guy that you can get to championship games with and a guy that gives you a chance to win a superbowl. If you were to ask me a few weeks ago if Alex can be that guy, I'd laugh and discard that notion. Now, I'm not so sure. Have the last few games changed your opinion of Alex?
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12-05-2013, 02:46 PM	#151
BossChief SuperBowl or bust Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BF Iowa Casino cash: $-1815912	I think a lot of you need to go back and rewatch that Denver game without "the emotion of the moment". Alex played a whale of a game. If he gave us that level of play every week, he would be in the next elite class once Manning, Brady and Brees begin to decline. I'm actually pretty excited to watch it all play out. If they can upgrade from Avery at the second receiver spot to a legit NFL #2, the line continues to protect and Alex continues to grow into the position...this can be a pretty potent offense going forward. Mix that with a young, up and coming defense with talent at all levels and te future is bright in KC. -hoping posts like this don't come back and burn me- __________________ Dreams do come true... http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=1407
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