Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on.

[Hammock Parties]

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by BossChief

How many wins does Tyler Wilson have?

Geno's professional record is nothing to brag about...

[mschiefs1984]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I don't think anyone is still on the Geno bandwagon.

A lot of us are still on the "I hope we draft a first round quarterback we can all get behind" bandwagon, though.

Oh some still are. They are now just making the same excuses they have jumped on people for using on Alex. Poor coaching, Crap WRs

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Trivers

You neg others who disagree with you???

Do YOU need some anal band aids?

You are smarter that your current posts show. Let it go. You lost this fight. Move on to the next one.

Yes. I'm smart enough to not assume that a QB never will get it because he didn't in his first 12 games on a shit offensive team.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Geno's professional record is nothing to brag about...

Tyler Bray 500, baby!

[Mr_Tomahawk]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Tyler Bray 500, baby!

Happy we ended up getting the better of the two Quarterbacks without wasting a draftpick...

Chiefs win.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Happy we ended up getting the better of the two Quarterbacks without wasting a draftpick...

Chiefs win.

I hope you finally got one right.

[Trivers]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yes. I'm smart enough to not assume that a QB never will get it because he didn't in his first 12 games on a shit offensive team.

Right.

This is the QB with the brains to try a "behind the back" ball transfer leading to a fumble on his goal line. So that was his teammates fault. Sure.

You really picked a winner to stake your CP reputation upon.

Man up and let it go.

[TheGuardian]

Originally Posted by Cochise

No reasonable person could believe that Gina gives them the best chance to win. He's been soundly outplayed by an undrafted free agent who only started one season in college.

Of course, Ryan was also loyal to Mark Sanchez for far too long when it was evident that he sucked.

And when a bunch of ****ing idiots on this board were still saying Sanchize was indeed the truth.

****ing idiots.

[mschiefs1984]

Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

All the neg reps show much butt hurt flowing still

You complain about neg rep yet you leave it for anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You complain about "alexcuses" yet you make the SAME excuses for Geno.

The fact that you still want Geno shows what a dumbass you are. Welcome to ignore. You have to be brain dead. Have to be.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

You complain about neg rep yet you leave it for anyone who doesn't agree with you.

You complain about "alexcuses" yet you make the SAME excuses for Geno.

The fact that you still want Geno shows what a dumbass you are. Welcome to ignore. You have to be brain dead. Have to be.

.

[FringeNC]

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1534479

Geno Smith not the answer as NY Jets must restart quarterback search

Geno Smith can’t come close to hitting an open receiver, Matt Simms has great bloodlines but has backup ability, David Garrard hasn’t taken a regular-season snap in three years and if anybody looks at the injured Mark Sanchez as the savior in 2014, well, that’s pretty funny.

This is the worst and most desperate quarterback situation the Jets have faced in all the not-so-glorious years since Joe Namath made them relevant for one Sunday afternoon in 1969.

Rex Ryan finally ran out of patience and benched the completely inept Smith at the half against the Dolphins — the rookie has not thrown a touchdown pass since Oct. 20, which is a long time — and put in Simms, whose father did some great things in his day across the parking lot from MetLife Stadium. But the son’s talent doesn’t quite equal the old man’s. Simms did get the Jets three points, which matched Smith’s production last week in Baltimore.

The worst part is the Jets have no hope at quarterback and will surely be forced to start the cycle over again in the first round of the May draft, when five or six quarterbacks could be No. 1 picks. The 23-3 loss to the dysfunctional Dolphins was the third in a row for the Jets, drops them to 5-7 and pretty much puts an end to any wild-card thoughts. It also increases the pressure on Ryan over the last month of the season to convince Woody Johnson and GM John Idzik to let him stick around next year.

Another dreadful performance by Smith clearly did nothing to improve the rookie’s confidence. Imagine how good he’d feel about himself if he could complete a pass.

“I think I am the best option for this team,” he said.

He might not even be the best option for a team with no options, although just sitting for a couple of weeks might do him some good.

Ryan apologized to the fans for the Jets’ “awful performance.” He and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg broke the news to Smith at the half that his helmet was no longer required.

“We were doing nothing,” Ryan said. “We did absolutely nothing offensively in the first half, so I was just trying to give us a spark some way. I figured that might do it.

"It’s not like it’s just on one man. A game is going like that, you try to find ways to pick the team up.”

Smith said he was given no reason for his benching — none required, really — after his 4-for-10 for 29 yards, an interception and an 8.3 QB rating, which followed his 22.3 rating last week in Baltimore and 10.1 in Buffalo.


“Rex owes me no explanation for that,” Smith said. “He’s the coach and I’m the player.”

Ryan said it will take evaluation this week to determine who starts next week against the Raiders, but it doesn’t matter given that Smith has had nearly 12 full games to show he is not the long-term answer. He just doesn’t have the “it” factor or the accuracy in his right arm to ever be a big-time player.

Ryan and rookie GM John Idzik sabotaged the Jets’ quarterback depth chart this season. Idzik’s first choice for a veteran backup was Garrard, who signed in April but didn’t even make it to mini-camp when his knee started barking. Idzik didn’t try to buy some real veteran insurance with Matt Hasselbeck, Jason Campbell or Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Then for reasons that are still not explained, Ryan put Sanchez is for garbage time in the fourth quarter of the third Snoopy Bowl preseason game against the Giants and Sanchez suffered a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder. If he had not gotten injured, Sanchez either would have been the Game 1 starter or would have replaced Smith as the starter weeks ago.

I asked Ryan if three months later he regrets putting Sanchez into that game.

“It’s easy when you look back on things,” he said. “Injuries are part of the game. I can certainly understand that. Anytime a player gets hurt, you regret that.”

The Jets signed Garrard again in October but he has not been activated for a game, although Ryan said Sunday he did consider giving him a jersey after the veteran worked out before the game but activated Antonio Cromartie and Santonio Holmes instead.

Sanchez took Ryan on a bumpy ride as a rookie in 2009, but he still showed many more promising signs than Smith even before he got hot in January and helped the Jets get to the AFC title game. Since what was supposed to be Smith’s turning point moment in Atlanta, he has one TD and 11 INTs in the last seven games.

Idzik was standing outside the locker room about 45 minutes after the loss to Miami, first talking with Simms, and then with Mornhinweg, whose offense can’t work without a quarterback. After Idzik was done commiserating with the player and coordinator, he was asked if he had a moment to talk.

“No,” he said.

Maybe he was in a hurry to get back to his office to watch tapes of next year’s quarterback draft class. That’s the only hope for a team with a hopeless quarterback situation.

[Trivers]

Ouch!

That is going to leave a mark!

[BandwagonChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by Trivers

Ouch!

That is going to leave a mark sanchez!

fixed

[KChiefs1]

Originally Posted by FringeNC

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/fo...icle-1.1534479

Geno Smith not the answer as NY Jets must restart quarterback search

Geno Smith can’t come close to hitting an open receiver, Matt Simms has great bloodlines but has backup ability, David Garrard hasn’t taken a regular-season snap in three years and if anybody looks at the injured Mark Sanchez as the savior in 2014, well, that’s pretty funny.

This is the worst and most desperate quarterback situation the Jets have faced in all the not-so-glorious years since Joe Namath made them relevant for one Sunday afternoon in 1969.

Rex Ryan finally ran out of patience and benched the completely inept Smith at the half against the Dolphins — the rookie has not thrown a touchdown pass since Oct. 20, which is a long time — and put in Simms, whose father did some great things in his day across the parking lot from MetLife Stadium. But the son’s talent doesn’t quite equal the old man’s. Simms did get the Jets three points, which matched Smith’s production last week in Baltimore.

The worst part is the Jets have no hope at quarterback and will surely be forced to start the cycle over again in the first round of the May draft, when five or six quarterbacks could be No. 1 picks. The 23-3 loss to the dysfunctional Dolphins was the third in a row for the Jets, drops them to 5-7 and pretty much puts an end to any wild-card thoughts. It also increases the pressure on Ryan over the last month of the season to convince Woody Johnson and GM John Idzik to let him stick around next year.

Another dreadful performance by Smith clearly did nothing to improve the rookie’s confidence. Imagine how good he’d feel about himself if he could complete a pass.

“I think I am the best option for this team,” he said.

He might not even be the best option for a team with no options, although just sitting for a couple of weeks might do him some good.

Ryan apologized to the fans for the Jets’ “awful performance.” He and offensive coordinator Marty Mornhinweg broke the news to Smith at the half that his helmet was no longer required.

“We were doing nothing,” Ryan said. “We did absolutely nothing offensively in the first half, so I was just trying to give us a spark some way. I figured that might do it.

"It’s not like it’s just on one man. A game is going like that, you try to find ways to pick the team up.”

Smith said he was given no reason for his benching — none required, really — after his 4-for-10 for 29 yards, an interception and an 8.3 QB rating, which followed his 22.3 rating last week in Baltimore and 10.1 in Buffalo.


“Rex owes me no explanation for that,” Smith said. “He’s the coach and I’m the player.”

Ryan said it will take evaluation this week to determine who starts next week against the Raiders, but it doesn’t matter given that Smith has had nearly 12 full games to show he is not the long-term answer. He just doesn’t have the “it” factor or the accuracy in his right arm to ever be a big-time player.

Ryan and rookie GM John Idzik sabotaged the Jets’ quarterback depth chart this season. Idzik’s first choice for a veteran backup was Garrard, who signed in April but didn’t even make it to mini-camp when his knee started barking. Idzik didn’t try to buy some real veteran insurance with Matt Hasselbeck, Jason Campbell or Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Then for reasons that are still not explained, Ryan put Sanchez is for garbage time in the fourth quarter of the third Snoopy Bowl preseason game against the Giants and Sanchez suffered a torn labrum in his throwing shoulder. If he had not gotten injured, Sanchez either would have been the Game 1 starter or would have replaced Smith as the starter weeks ago.

I asked Ryan if three months later he regrets putting Sanchez into that game.

“It’s easy when you look back on things,” he said. “Injuries are part of the game. I can certainly understand that. Anytime a player gets hurt, you regret that.”

The Jets signed Garrard again in October but he has not been activated for a game, although Ryan said Sunday he did consider giving him a jersey after the veteran worked out before the game but activated Antonio Cromartie and Santonio Holmes instead.

Sanchez took Ryan on a bumpy ride as a rookie in 2009, but he still showed many more promising signs than Smith even before he got hot in January and helped the Jets get to the AFC title game. Since what was supposed to be Smith’s turning point moment in Atlanta, he has one TD and 11 INTs in the last seven games.

Idzik was standing outside the locker room about 45 minutes after the loss to Miami, first talking with Simms, and then with Mornhinweg, whose offense can’t work without a quarterback. After Idzik was done commiserating with the player and coordinator, he was asked if he had a moment to talk.

“No,” he said.

Maybe he was in a hurry to get back to his office to watch tapes of next year’s quarterback draft class. That’s the only hope for a team with a hopeless quarterback situation.

A wasted draft pick...just be glad it wasn't the first overall pick.

[Eleazar]

Originally Posted by KChiefs1

A wasted draft pick...just be glad it wasn't the first overall pick.

I'm imagining a world where we took Geno at 1.1 like the CP Brain Trust wanted...

They'd be screaming that we had to stick with him for next year as the unquestioned starter and that we needed to use our first round pick on more o-linement, perhaps?