Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 403

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

BigCatDaddy · 12-08-2013, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

I don't really think any one person is being pummeled over Geno besides him, and he continuously asks for it. He and CatDaddy are really the only remaining apologists.

I think the reason people have laughs at Geno's failures is because there were people browbeating everyone that he was the only choice a sane person could make at #1.

People get tired of the draftnik "you don't know shit" attitude and enjoy poking at them when it appears they don't know much more than the rest of us.

Total bullshit. Most people wanted Geno or whoever Reid/Dorsey thought the best QB in the draft was. More backlash was generated at the thought of drafting a right tackle with the #1 pick and rightfully so.

Eleazar · 12-08-2013, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Well some of us draftniks have been right far more than we've been wrong. I've never understood why people with literally no vested interest in the conversation, especially the ones that openly admit they don't watch college football, just want to chime in so that they can say I told you so later.

This has gotten to be one of the most childish places lately.

It isn't about being right or not right. It's about how people like Claynus or his predecessor Mecca carry themselves.

Not much has changed since Wendy Meets A Draft Tabulator.

-King- · 12-08-2013, 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Jamaal Charles is the best back in the nfl.

No one is arguing against that. But that doesn't change the fact that Geno has a good running game to rely on.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

It isn't about being right or not right. It's about how people like Claynus or his predecessor Mecca carry themselves.

Not much has changed since Wendy Meets A Draft Tabulator.

Sorry man. At the time the BS started in that thread, Clay wasn't even an active participant (outside of some blatant trolling attempts). We got firebombed by a select few like BlackBob and the whole thing went season finale of dynasty.

One of the most ardent dickwads was a JAGUARS FAN. Think about that for a minute.

Brock · 12-08-2013, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

UUUmmm huh......Replace Smith with Geno and the Chiefs are a better team...sorry, only blind irrational haters would agree.

Duuuhhh, because that's what I said.

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Total bullshit. Most people wanted Geno or whoever Reid/Dorsey thought the best QB in the draft was. More backlash was generated at the thought of drafting a right tackle with the #1 pick and rightfully so.

Keep it up dummy..... In hindsight you are one of two of the most ignorant people in the world that still believe that Geno should have been taken #1 overall. Gulp gulp!

BigCatDaddy · 12-08-2013, 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Keep it up dummy..... In hindsight you are one of two of the most ignorant people in the world that still believe that Geno should have been taken #1 overall. Gulp gulp!

I'd take a QB over a RT any day at #1, even if the QB bust out a few years down the road. ****, you put in a guy off the bench at the line becomes much better

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:01 PM

How about he busts after 5 games?

Brock · 12-08-2013, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Keep it up dummy..... In hindsight you are one of two of the most ignorant people in the world that still believe that Geno should have been taken #1 overall. Gulp gulp!

Taking Fisher was a brilliant alternative!

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brock

Taking Fisher was a brilliant alternative!

Fishers NFL's career will outlast Genos by more than 5 years... Want to bet?

Jakemall · 12-08-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

I'm not saying Geno's are that much better at least at wr. But Geno does have a better HC and Defense then Alex did. There WRs I would agree are about even overall though I do think Holmes is a bit better then the top weapon Alex had.

Not even close.

Morton retired the following year..that should say something. Lloyd was latter dubbed alligator arms. Arnaz finished his career as the scrub that he was. The fact that he was on the 9er roster is a sign of how bad things were.

Gore was not Gore yet...Barlow had turned into a sack of shit...I'm still baffled as to why..unless it was because of Hearst leaving...and they shared some carries with Hicks...who became a special teams only player.

Also keep in mind that Alex only got put in after the Starter went 1-3 and the Nolan decided that it couldn't be any worse to start the rookie. For the most part he was right.

The talent of the team had been absolutely decimated..and the players that were there were badly coached both that year and the preceding year. To give you an idea of how badly coached...when Marriuchi left the team had gone to the championship..the following year under Dickerson they went 7-9....then TO and Owens and Tai Streets..all gone before Alex was there. The pro-bowl center goes down...I think Eric Johnson got hurt in 2005 also...

There was no talent on offense..it wasn't like the defense was amazing either.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

How about he busts after 5 games?

Geno didn't bust after 5 games. He was the AFC offensive player of the week in week 5, actually.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

I agree here mostly.

The problem and why Geno gets the flack like I said is that he was made out to be some great QB that was going to come in and light up the league. And while it's true about his coaches and his WR are not great when the same is said about Alex it's called "ballwashing" then the same people want to use the very same to excuse Geno. I don't think there's anyone here who really hates Geno most just get fed up with the love certain people on here have for Geno. I'm just putting them on ignore myself. But if those people wouldn't continue to shove him down peoples throats not as many would be judging him as much.

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

UUUmmm huh......Replace Smith with Geno and the Chiefs are a better team...sorry, only blind irrational haters would agree.

In the immediate future? Probably.

But you do have to factor age and ceiling into this equation.

If Geno reaches his ceiling, he is a guy that makes you defend 50 yards of field. Every yard. Sideline to sideline. He OBVIOUSLY isn't near is ceiling, though and will take a lot of work to get there. The light at the end of the tunnel here is the kid just turned 23 years old in October. Plenty of time to coach him up and try to get that potential realized while adding weapons around him to help him get there. Every single NFL quarterback needs a playmaker or two to lean on in games. Geno has nobody.

With Alex Smiths ceiling, he makes you defend 25-30 yards but is very effective in those areas. He is very reluctant to throw outside the numbers and past 20 yards (but has shown visible improvement in these areas recently.)

I will ALWAYS contend that trading for a guy like Alex Smith and doubling down by drafting a quarterback with a high pick would have been a better usage than drafting a franchise right tackle with that pick.

Replace Rex Ryan with Andy Reid and Geno would be better.
Replace his receivers with ours and he would be better.
Replace their running game with ours and he would be better.
Replace his special teams with ours and he would be better.
Replace his defense with ours and he would get more possessions.
Give Geno 1-2 years to sit behind a real pro in Alex Smith ad he would be better equipped to play when called upon.

mschiefs1984 · 12-08-2013, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Keep it up dummy..... In hindsight you are one of two of the most ignorant people in the world that still believe that Geno should have been taken #1 overall. Gulp gulp!

Watch out he'll leave you negative rep after he bitched about people being butt hurt leaving him negative rep LOL

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

Fishers NFL's career will outlast Genos by more than 5 years... Want to bet?

Chiefs fans always set the bar so high.

View Poll Results: Who will win more games in the next five years?
Geno Smith	81	19.29%
Alex Smith	339	80.71%
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