Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 405

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Smoke

Off topic, but BossChief, time to change your avatar and sig?

I'm honoring a bet I made last year. I've been in McClusters corner, actually.

I lost a bet last year that Jamaal wouldn't get 300 touches in the year coming off acl and the team having signed Hillis.

I'll have to see what point Jamaal got the 300th touch, but it's gotta be coming up next week or the week after.

-King- · 12-08-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Just an excuse to use if your draft pick sucks, oh its a shitty draft. A GM worth a shit would get a stud.

Wait, so you disagree that the 2013 was the worst draft in a decade? Which draft was worse?

BigCatDaddy · 12-08-2013, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Just an excuse to use if your draft pick sucks, oh its a shitty draft. A GM worth a shit would get a stud.

Or a difference maker. Tayvon Austin is a guy that can win you a game on his own. That's much more valuable than a shitty RT, but that required thinking outside the box.

Messier · 12-08-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Or a difference maker. Tayvon Austin is a guy that can win you a game on his own. That's much more valuable than a shitty RT, but that required thinking outside the box.

Also known as crappy thinking.

threebag · 12-08-2013, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

All those little things are what Geno is missing right now. Give him 2 years to learn those things and who knows where he would be.

Tripe

mschiefs1984 · 12-08-2013, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex is a real pro. Nobody is trying to take that away from him. He works hard, studies a lot of tape, is athletic and smart enough to be an average starter in this league...but that's where it probably ends. Regardless of how much we don't want that to be true. He is a game manager, but a good one.

Alex is a guy that doesn't make many mistakes because he does all the little things. All those little things are what Geno is missing right now. Give him 2 years to learn those things and who knows where he would be.

I think Alex can be above average a bit if he's in the right system with the right supporting cast. But in no way can he be elite it just won't happen but he is a guy who doesn't lose the game for you like we saw over the past few seasons. Right now Geno's losing games for his team. He's going to have to make some adjustments and that's something you don't know if a QB can do until he does it

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Or a difference maker. Tayvon Austin is a guy that can win you a game on his own. That's much more valuable than a shitty RT, but that required thinking outside the box.

Refocus bro....this thread is about your love of Geno.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by mschiefs1984

The problem with this is that to get Geno they would have had to taken him at 1.1. QBs taken today at 1.1 don't sit anymore. It just doesn't happen the way teams go these days.

Why not? They took a project right tackle at 1.1. What's the difference? Anyway, that's the situation Aaron Rodgers was drafted into and it worked out pretty well for GB.

Also, if they don't want to take a guy at 1, trade down. We were already talking to Miami about Albert at that time and they traded up in the draft with Oakland from 12 to 3....gave up a second to move up...if they gave that much up to move up to 3, one would have to think they would give up the same to move to 1 instead of 3 being the slotted contracts are basically similar. Move down to 12 and take bpa while recouping tat second we gave up to get Alex Smith.

They basically came out and said they think Eric Fisher is the best player in the draft.

A generational talent.

I hope they Ed up being right, but the early returns aren't exactly confidence inspiring.

BigCatDaddy · 12-08-2013, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

Also known as crappy thinking.

Yeah, go see if the Rams want to make that trade now.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by -King-

Wait, so you disagree that the 2013 was the worst draft in a decade? Which draft was worse?

That's pointless to discuss in week 14, year 1.

Messier · 12-08-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Yeah, go see if the Rams want to make that trade now.

You talk as if Austin is just destroying. He's doing alright.

mschiefs1984 · 12-08-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why not? They took a project right tackle at 1.1. What's the difference? Anyway, that's the situation Aaron Rodgers was drafted into and it worked out pretty well for GB.

Also, if they don't want to take a guy at 1, trade down. We were already talking to Miami about Albert at that time and they traded up in the draft with Oakland from 12 to 3....gave up a second to move up...if they gave that much up to move up to 3, one would have to think they would give up the same to move to 1 instead of 3 being the slotted contracts are basically similar. Move down to 12 and take bpa while recouping tat second we gave up to get Alex Smith.

They basically came out and said they think Eric Fisher is the best player in the draft.

A generational talent.

I hope they Ed up being right, but the early returns aren't exactly confidence inspiring.

Fisher started game 1 and every other game until he got hurt. 1.1 picks these days start day 1 for the most part. I can't remember the last guy drafted 1.1 that didn't start. It's just how the NFL has gone.

The trade down thing is a thought I guess they could have done that. But in a very weak draft it was more difficult to do. But they could have found a way.

Fisher was god awful at the start of the season but IMO he has improved some. That's not saying a lot but at least he's improving

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

That's pointless to discuss in week 14, year 1.

Sure, tell Luck and RGIII that last year at this time.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

With the whole sit Geno for a few years theory, don't see why that can't be the plan with Bray.

It is the plan with Bray.

But seeing as he was undrafted, it's unlikely he will ever get a real shot.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Just an excuse to use if your draft pick sucks, oh its a shitty draft. A GM worth a shit would get a stud.

A lot of really good GMs did poorly in this past draft. It wasn't a good year to be picking top 15. There really isn't a "stud" among them.

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