Chiefs Geno Smith vs Alex Smith - It's on. - Page 406

Hammock Parties · 02:56 AM

It's on now. Geno Smith is probably going to be starting for the Jets this season.

Alex Smith will be the Chiefs QB for the forseeable future. If he's a success, we'll probably get five good years out of him.

So who's gonna win more NFL games over that time period?

Put your ten pounders on the table and make a vote

Alex: 11 wins
Geno: 8 wins

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Messier

You talk as if Austin is just destroying. He's doing alright.

He's quite a bit better than Fisher and at a position that can actually directly influence the outcome of a game...

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:45 PM

Brays ceiling isn't close to that of Geno Smith, though.

At this point, Bray has a cannon and not much else. He displayed poor pocket awareness, poor ball security, poor ability to read even vanilla defenses and most of his passes lacked touch or accuracy.

Add to that, he is basically a statue back there.

Geno can throw for 300 and run for another 50-75. Those rushing yards are huge when defenses want to run strict man coverage.

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Why not? They took a project right tackle at 1.1. What's the difference? Anyway, that's the situation Aaron Rodgers was drafted into and it worked out pretty well for GB.

Also, if they don't want to take a guy at 1, trade down. We were already talking to Miami about Albert at that time and they traded up in the draft with Oakland from 12 to 3....gave up a second to move up...if they gave that much up to move up to 3, one would have to think they would give up the same to move to 1 instead of 3 being the slotted contracts are basically similar. Move down to 12 and take bpa while recouping tat second we gave up to get Alex Smith.

They basically came out and said they think Eric Fisher is the best player in the draft.

A generational talent.

I hope they Ed up being right, but the early returns aren't exactly confidence inspiring.

No one would trade for the 1 pick. Please acknowledge that as a fact.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:47 PM

Unless you've got one of those rare guys with a Brees/Brady release, your QB better be able to run.

It's the best part of Alex's game and we wouldn't be 10-3 without it.

htismaqe · 12-08-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

No one would trade for the 1 pick. Please acknowledge that as a fact.

Especially not in last year's draft.

-King- · 12-08-2013, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Brays ceiling isn't close to that of Geno Smith, though.

At this point, Bray has a cannon and not much else. He displayed poor pocket awareness, poor ball security, poor ability to read even vanilla defenses and most of his passes lacked touch or accuracy.

Which of those things has Geno shown he's good at in the NFL?

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

No one would trade for the 1 pick. Please acknowledge that as a fact.

But Miami did trade for 3rd overall, right?

You don't make sense.

Nobody was gonna get full value in a trade, but you can't tell me Miami wouldn't have moved to 1 for the same compensation they gave up to go to 3.

Give me Kenny Vaccaro, Sheldon Richardson, Star Loteuleiuoesddt, EJ Manuel, Geno Smith, Eric Reid, or any of a few others and a second rounder over Eric Fisher.

Shit if what we wanted was a right tackle, how about DJ Fluker and a second rounder for Eric Fisher?

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Brays ceiling isn't close to that of Geno Smith, though.

At this point, Bray has a cannon and not much else. He displayed poor pocket awareness, poor ball security, poor ability to read even vanilla defenses and most of his passes lacked touch or accuracy.

Add to that, he is basically a statue back there.

Geno can throw for 300 and run for another 50-75. Those rushing yards are huge when defenses want to run strict man coverage.

And you figured that out by dissecting Brays preseason snaps? Holy smokes I had no idea we were in the presence of a genious.

Messier · 12-08-2013, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Brays ceiling isn't close to that of Geno Smith, though.

At this point, Bray has a cannon and not much else. He displayed poor pocket awareness, poor ball security, poor ability to read even vanilla defenses and most of his passes lacked touch or accuracy.

Add to that, he is basically a statue back there.

Geno can throw for 300 and run for another 50-75. Those rushing yards are huge when defenses want to run strict man coverage.

How the F did you you get all this from your limited exposure to Bray?

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by tonyetony

And you figured that out by dissecting Brays preseason snaps? Holy smokes I had no idea we were in the presence of a genious.

Did you not watch preseason?

How many fumbles did he have? How many times did people liken his short game to Brodie Croyle because he was throwing lasers everywhere? How many picks did he throw? How many times did he stare guys down?

It doesn't take a genious (cp spelling) to see these things during preseason.

**The Bad Guy** · 12-08-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Or a difference maker. Tayvon Austin is a guy that can win you a game on his own. That's much more valuable than a shitty RT, but that required thinking outside the box.

He's won one game for the Rams and has been invisible all year outside of that.

Fisher blows. I agree. If I could redraft, I'd take Sheldon Richardson.

Messier · 12-08-2013, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He's won one game for the Rams and has been invisible all year outside of that.

Fisher blows. I agree. If I could redraft, I'd take Sheldon Richardson.

That must be what he meant. Austin can win you A game.

tk13 · 12-08-2013, 11:07 PM

I still think Fisher is improving. He's played a lot better the 2nd half of the season. You can see his potential talent. Not sure he was really worthy of the #1 pick but so far this draft doesn't look like the strongest. Of course the Chiefs would get the first pick in a weak year.

Geno was a better prospect than Bray. Bray was just a raw arm... he still pretty much is. That said Geno's strength was accuracy and his accuracy has been terrible, so there's that.

**BossChief** · 12-08-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by The Bad Guy

He's won one game for the Rams and has been invisible all year outside of that.

Fisher blows. I agree. If I could redraft, I'd take Sheldon Richardson.

Or Vaccaro.

Or Mingo

tonyetony · 12-08-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

How many fumbles did he have? How many times did people liken his short game to Brodie Croyle because he was throwing lasers everywhere? How many picks did he throw? How many times did he stare guys down?

It doesn't take a genious (cp spelling) to see these things during preseason.

I am waiting for the answers. It is your argument. I think Bray has more potential than Geno.

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1877500	I still think Fisher is improving. He's played a lot better the 2nd half of the season. You can see his potential talent. Not sure he was really worthy of the #1 pick but so far this draft doesn't look like the strongest. Of course the Chiefs would get the first pick in a weak year. Geno was a better prospect than Bray. Bray was just a raw arm... he still pretty much is. That said Geno's strength was accuracy and his accuracy has been terrible, so there's that.
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