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Old 12-09-2013, 08:42 AM   #1
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What is stacked against them, other than choices the team itself made (signings, trades, draft picks)?
The general attitude of the fans, aka what they are usually satisfied with vs what they are not.

The size of the market they're in.

The location of the market they're in.

Off the top of my head.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:47 AM   #2
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The general attitude of the fans, aka what they are usually satisfied with vs what they are not.

The size of the market they're in.

The location of the market they're in.

Off the top of my head.
And so those things make it less likely to win the Super Bowl? How?
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #3
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And so those things make it less likely to win the Super Bowl? How?
I'm just going to assume you're being obtuse.
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I'm just going to assume you're being obtuse.
I'm going to assume you're avoiding answering the question. How does playing in the Midwest in a smaller market make it less likely for the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl? If this was baseball and we were talking about the Royals, I'd agree. But football has revenue sharing and salary caps. Everyone has a chance. The teams that have a long run of success are largely the ones who drafted a great QB.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:02 AM   #5
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I'm going to assume you're avoiding answering the question. How does playing in the Midwest in a smaller market make it less likely for the Chiefs to make the Super Bowl? If this was baseball and we were talking about the Royals, I'd agree. But football has revenue sharing and salary caps. Everyone has a chance. The teams that have a long run of success are largely the ones who drafted a great QB.
There's a reason we haven't drafted a great QB.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:06 AM   #6
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There's a reason we haven't drafted a great QB.
and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:08 AM   #7
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and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?
I already told you.
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:10 AM   #8
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and that is...

What, the NFL wouldn't allow it?
Enough Chiefs fans are satisfied with mediocrity, so there's no point in "wasting" 2-3 years to develop a QB when you can sign a retread/stop gap and get butts in seats.

Buy season tickets.
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Old 12-09-2013, 08:50 AM   #9
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The general attitude of the fans, aka what they are usually satisfied with vs what they are not.

The size of the market they're in.

The location of the market they're in.

Off the top of my head.
Green Bay, pittsburgh, and Indianapolis are similar size and in the middle of the country. Our fan base is fine. Save our chiefs proved we won't stand for a consistently crappy product. We are probably closer to a Super Bowl now than in a long time. Our core is fairly young, built through the draft and we aren't completely one sided like in the past
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Green Bay, pittsburgh, and Indianapolis are similar size and in the middle of the country. Our fan base is fine. Save our chiefs proved we won't stand for a consistently crappy product. We are probably closer to a Super Bowl now than in a long time. Our core is fairly young, built through the draft and we aren't completely one sided like in the past
Green Bay is THE original NFL franchise. Pittsburgh and Indy also have history on their side. None of the 3 are original AFL teams, FWIW.
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Green Bay is THE original NFL franchise. Pittsburgh and Indy also have history on their side. None of the 3 are original AFL teams, FWIW.
Every now and again there's a team that fights the odds.

Tampa, Baltimore (1st SB win,) Cardinals (literal red-headed stepchildren,) Rams, etc...
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Every now and again there's a team that fights the odds.

Tampa, Baltimore (1st SB win,) Cardinals (literal red-headed stepchildren,) Rams, etc...
So basically, it's down to "we need a miracle".
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So basically, it's down to "we need a miracle".
When did that not appear to be the case?...
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Old 12-09-2013, 09:07 AM   #14
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When did that not appear to be the case?...
That's the wrong question.

It's "when did I finally open my eyes and realize that was the case?"
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