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Old 12-16-2013, 10:59 AM  
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RGIII Benched because he is Black? Michael Irvin...
There has been no shortage of controversy surrounding Mike Shanahan’s decision to bench Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III for the rest of the season. Between speculation that Shanahan is intentionally trying to get himself fired and reports that RG3 is furious, the situation has turned into a full-blown circus. And now, Michael Irvin has attempted to introduce the race element.

During halftime of Thursday Night Football, Irvin and the rest of the NFL Network panel discussed the mess in Washington. Deion Sanders said he thought RG3 “needed a little humble pie.” Irvin basically said the Redskins wouldn’t be handling the situation the same way if they had a white quarterback.

“You are tearing him down,” Irvin ranted, via Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog. “I doubt that any man can come back from this, walking around three weeks around these guys that you have to lead. And I don’t want to hear about teammates either; we understand as teammates and players, quarterbacks do get special treatment.

“You don’t see people arguing when Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets (special treatment) — I don’t want you arguing when this kid gets it. He’s the quarterback, and the rest of us brothers have to understand that and treat him as such. I’ve got an issue with all of it. … You think they could do this to Andrew Luck? Let me ask you that, you think they could do this to Luck?”

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Old 12-16-2013, 12:05 PM   #46
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None of those guys get the media attention that Cam and RGIII have received for their struggles.

Except Brady, and that was more because it was incongruent with what we've seen from him... and Ben when he was raping people every other weekend.
So....you agree.

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The narrative sure wasn't "They're a selfish me-first diva". Only QB's that fit a certain criteria get that label.
No one said Cam was a me-first guy. They were saying he let his emotions get the best of him and was acting childish in media interviews.

No one has ever said RGIII was a me-first guy. Ever. Not even now.

He's just playing like $3it...
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:06 PM   #47
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No has ever said RGIII was a me-first guy. Ever.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:08 PM   #48
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...and RGIII really tore up the opponent the week before.


I think his problem is 3 fold. I think he came back too soon from his knee injury, he's suffering from a sophomore slump and teams have defended the zone read better this year, and I think he isn't putting in the time this year.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:09 PM   #49
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RG3's problems are the following:

1. Came back too soon from the knee injury.
2. His offensive coordinator is a ****ing idiot that doesn't deserve the job he has.

His knee injury delayed him transitioning into a pro style offense after his first year.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:10 PM   #50
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So....you agree.
No. Ben was a rapist. That has nothing to do with football. Brady is an all time great struggling for one of the first times ever in a long career. It's not the same.



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No one said Cam was a me-first guy. They were saying he let his emotions get the best of him and was acting childish in media interviews.

No one has ever said RGIII was a me-first guy. Ever. Not even now.

He's just playing like $3it...
Are you actually reading what is being written about him? Christ, being selfish is the main area of talk. He rushed back because he wanted to keep his job from the guy who is 'allegedly' better than him, he wants his bad plays not talked about, he blames everyone for everything, and he doesn't give credit to his team. That's pretty much all they've been talking about. Him being a self important 'all about me' asshole.

If it was just about him playing poorly, that would be different. It's not. The negative coverage is on a level rarely seen by any player, including the ones you listed.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:11 PM   #51
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RG3 is black? He looks more brownish to me. Not sure what the big deal is. Must be my TV.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:25 PM   #52
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So....you agree.



No one said Cam was a me-first guy. They were saying he let his emotions get the best of him and was acting childish in media interviews.

No one has ever said RGIII was a me-first guy. Ever. Not even now.

He's just playing like $3it...
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Google "RG3 ego." It has it's own twitter handle. And "ego" is just one version of saying he's "me-first."

Either way. I'm tired of hearing about RG3 period. He won't last taking hits, and the 'skins were idiots for trading a draft away for any one player.
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:32 PM   #54
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Old 12-16-2013, 12:36 PM   #55
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Same thing happened to Cam Newton. When he had his struggles, it was all "he's an immature punk and that's why he's failing".

When a black QB struggles it can't just be a young QB struggling. The media always assassinates their character. I'd call it a coincidence however when the criteria of a young, well hyped black QB struggles is met, the narrative is always the same. The difference is that in Carolina the head coach wasn't the one feeding the narrative to the media.
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Same thing happened to Cam Newton. When he had his struggles, it was all "he's an immature punk and that's why he's failing".

When a black QB struggles it can't just be a young QB struggling. The media always assassinates their character. I'd call it a coincidence however when the criteria of a young, well hyped black QB struggles is met, the narrative is always the same. The difference is that in Carolina the head coach wasn't the one feeding the narrative to the media.
It's kind of funny that Kaepernick has mostly avoided this type of scrutiny although he's actually half black himself. I wonder if he looked more "black" would he experience something similar?
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It's kind of funny that Kaepernick has mostly avoided this type of scrutiny although he's actually half black himself. I wonder if he looked more "black" would he experience something similar?
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No. Ben was a rapist. That has nothing to do with football. Brady is an all time great struggling for one of the first times ever in a long career. It's not the same.
It's about maturity level. That's on and off the field.

Ben wasn't just accused of a sexual assault (and rumors of more than one) but his dumb ass was riding around on a motorcycle with no helmet, constantly having pics of him taken acting like a college drunk, and poor decision making.

When you win people forget about all that.



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Are you actually reading what is being written about him? Christ, being selfish is the main area of talk. He rushed back because he wanted to keep his job from the guy who is 'allegedly' better than him, he wants his bad plays not talked about, he blames everyone for everything, and he doesn't give credit to his team. That's pretty much all they've been talking about. Him being a self important 'all about me' asshole.
You didn't hear any of that before the draft or last year. There was a long line of media waiting to suck him off.

This must all be this year.

Which coincides with him sucking.

Which is my point...
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It's kind of funny that Kaepernick has mostly avoided this type of scrutiny although he's actually half black himself. I wonder if he looked more "black" would he experience something similar?
He just gets criticized for having tats...

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