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Old 12-16-2013, 10:59 AM  
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RGIII Benched because he is Black? Michael Irvin...
There has been no shortage of controversy surrounding Mike Shanahan’s decision to bench Washington Redskins quarterback Robert Griffin III for the rest of the season. Between speculation that Shanahan is intentionally trying to get himself fired and reports that RG3 is furious, the situation has turned into a full-blown circus. And now, Michael Irvin has attempted to introduce the race element.

During halftime of Thursday Night Football, Irvin and the rest of the NFL Network panel discussed the mess in Washington. Deion Sanders said he thought RG3 “needed a little humble pie.” Irvin basically said the Redskins wouldn’t be handling the situation the same way if they had a white quarterback.

“You are tearing him down,” Irvin ranted, via Dan Steinberg of DC Sports Bog. “I doubt that any man can come back from this, walking around three weeks around these guys that you have to lead. And I don’t want to hear about teammates either; we understand as teammates and players, quarterbacks do get special treatment.

“You don’t see people arguing when Peyton Manning or Tom Brady gets (special treatment) — I don’t want you arguing when this kid gets it. He’s the quarterback, and the rest of us brothers have to understand that and treat him as such. I’ve got an issue with all of it. … You think they could do this to Andrew Luck? Let me ask you that, you think they could do this to Luck?”

Keep reading…http://larrybrownsports.com/football...enching/213770
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:46 AM   #151
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Not to turn this political, but I can't help but thinking that as soon as RG3 came out and announced he was a conservative republican and not in love with obama, the media attacked him. After all it wouldn't be the first time.
Thet did seem to be the case with the ESPN analyst that was fired. To me, anyway.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:46 AM   #152
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I think it's interesting that the story has basically been RGIII and Shanahan. Anyone familiar with the Redskins over the last 10-15 years knows the organization is poison, and the minute RGIII was drafted by them this sort of nonsense was inevitable.
It starts with Snyder and it's never going to change while he's there. If it's not Shanahan and RGIII it will be someone else.
Absolutely agree.
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Old 12-18-2013, 08:47 AM   #153
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He can't read an NFL defense. There's no point in leaving him out there to lose games and risk that knee that's held together by blu-tack until he makes some strides as a QB. Not as an athlete, as a QB
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:05 AM   #154
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I think it's interesting that the story has basically been RGIII and Shanahan. Anyone familiar with the Redskins over the last 10-15 years knows the organization is poison, and the minute RGIII was drafted by them this sort of nonsense was inevitable.
It starts with Snyder and it's never going to change while he's there. If it's not Shanahan and RGIII it will be someone else.
I'm not sure if the Redskins or the Raiders have a poisonous organization that turns good people into bad people. I just think that people like RG3, or in Oakland, Jamarcus Russell, had the same attitude that a 20 year old kid who got drafted would have. They think they are the greatest thing out there, and that their success is all on them. What they need is an organization that helps shape character factors like humility and... well, character in general.

A lot of these young QBs think when they sign the contract that that's it. They don't realize that this is just the beginning of their journey into being a QB, and that no matter where they were drafted or how skilled they are, the odds are still against them
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:07 AM   #155
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Most of the NFL Network crew were agreeing that it is all but impossible for RGIII to come back from this deactivation.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:10 AM   #156
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I'm not sure if the Redskins or the Raiders have a poisonous organization that turns good people into bad people. I just think that people like RG3, or in Oakland, Jamarcus Russell, had the same attitude that a 20 year old kid who got drafted would have. They think they are the greatest thing out there, and that their success is all on them. What they need is an organization that helps shape character factors like humility and... well, character in general.

A lot of these young QBs think when they sign the contract that that's it. They don't realize that this is just the beginning of their journey into being a QB, and that no matter where they were drafted or how skilled they are, the odds are still against them
You'd have a point.

If the fail were confined just to the RG3 or Russell era's of their respective teams. As it stands, both teams have a storied history of fail in which RG3 and Russell are merely short chapters.
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Old 12-18-2013, 09:12 AM   #157
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Most of the NFL Network crew were agreeing that it is all but impossible for RGIII to come back from this deactivation.
I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!
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I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!
They might not be so bad off if they traded him and could get a 1st round pick in exchange. They spent 3 first round picks on him, but IMO, that's a sunk cost.

Pointless to discuss I suppose, because they aren't going to trade him. Snyder bet the next 5+ years of the franchise on him and they're going to ride that hobby-horse until it dies.
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I wonder what his trade price would be now? Worth a risk?!
Have no idea what they would be asking. But there is no way I want RGIII.
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Have no idea what they would be asking. But there is no way I want RGIII.
Why not? Is it because he's black?
















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Why not? Is it because he's black?


I am not a fan of the Read or Zone Option offense. I do not think he can or will ever be able to convert to a pocket passer.
And he seems to have some baggage.
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I am not a fan of the Read or Zone Option offense. I do not think he can or will ever be able to convert to a pocket passer.
And he seems to have some baggage.
I respect that you have your own opinion. I happen to think he can become a good pocket passer. It'll take a coach that is willing to work with him though....and it won't happen in one offseason.
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So in 2010 while at Baylor, rgIII threw to josh Gordon,Terrance Williams, and Kendall Wright.

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I feel as if this post got overlooked.
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