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**BigRedChief** · 08:00 PM

I've stated that I think Reid held back Charles and his best plays the last time we played Indy. Others have said that was their best effort, just a bad day. What say you?

SPATCH · 12-30-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs=Good

Did they set out to play conservatively? No probably not, but I think a coach can adapt to lack of effort and the likelihood of playing the same team in the playoffs and shelve their game plan a bit..

Maybe the perceived "lack of effort" can be attributed to the players' knowledge of a purposely limited gameplan?

Chiefnj2 · 12-30-2013, 08:47 PM

The division was still up for grabs when they played. If they held back they deserve to lose this weekend. You don't roll over because you are hiding something just because it "looks" like you may play Indy a month later in the post season.

jspchief · 12-30-2013, 08:50 PM

So rather than trying to win for home field advantage, the Chiefs chose to try and surprise the Colts in Indy during the playoffs?

Does anyone else recognize how absurd that sounds?

Here's what really happened. The Colts came in with a good defensive game plan that our coaches and players didn't adjust to very well. Period.

ILChief · 12-30-2013, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Even the players said after the game that they knew they would be facing the Colts again and that they didn't give the best effort.

Who said that?

BigRock · 12-30-2013, 08:54 PM

They held back just like the defense held back in the weeks before playing Denver.

SPATCH · 12-30-2013, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So rather than trying to win for home field advantage, the Chiefs chose to try and surprise the Colts in Indy during the playoffs?

Does anyone else recognize how absurd that sounds?

Almost as absurd as believing the Broncos might lose to the Texans or Raiders...

jspchief · 12-30-2013, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by the_spatula

Almost as absurd as believing the Broncos might lose to the Texans or Raiders...

Well hell, who believed in august that KC could make the playoffs at all? Reid should have saved all his plays for 2014.

**ShortRoundChief** · 12-30-2013, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

The division was still up for grabs when they played. If they held back they deserve to lose this weekend. You don't roll over because you are hiding something just because it "looks" like you may play Indy a month later in the post season.

You don't have to be an expert to look at the probability of us winning out and Denver losing out to 2 subpar teams. We were in and at that point we weren't playing for this season, we're playing for the tourney.

**Bearcat** · 12-30-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

So rather than trying to win for home field advantage, the Chiefs chose to try and surprise the Colts in Indy during the playoffs?

Does anyone else recognize how absurd that sounds?

Here's what really happened. The Colts came in with a good defensive game plan that our coaches and players didn't adjust to very well. Period.

Yes. Terrible rationalization... it might be quite shocking that your team might not show up for a game, but it does actually happen from time to time, and being a fan with no control over the game, there's no shame in admitting that.

Or, Andy Reid doesn't have half a brain and instead of making a few moves in the two game chess match, he deferred.

ChiefRocka · 12-30-2013, 09:04 PM

I can't wait to watch Poe collapse the pocket on Saturday.

SPATCH · 12-30-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

Well hell, who believed in august that KC could make the playoffs at all? Reid should have saved all his plays for 2014.

Not a good analogy

jspchief · 12-30-2013, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

You don't have to be an expert to look at the probability of us winning out and Denver losing out to 2 subpar teams. We were in and at that point we weren't playing for this season, we're playing for the tourney.

You also don't need to be an expert to realize that winning in the NFL is rarely about surprise plays and almost always about execution.

This entire topic is frustratingly stupid.

SPATCH · 12-30-2013, 09:07 PM

Look, before the game most simulations and analysis showed a greater than 70% that the Chiefs would play the Colts in the first round.

It would actually be more absurd to ignore those kinds of odds, in my opinion.

SPATCH · 12-30-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jspchief

You also don't need to be an expert to realize that winning in the NFL is rarely about surprise plays and almost always about execution.

This entire topic is frustratingly stupid.

This isn't about trick plays.

This is about exploitation of weakness and forming a gameplan to do so.

Chiefnj2 · 12-30-2013, 09:13 PM

They planned on having Smith take 5 sacks, throw no TDs and a pick. It's a great way to keep him safe and improve his fear of going downfield.

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