Chiefs What I Saw - Page 6

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 07:26 PM

There isn’t a way to quantify a loss like that. There isn’t a way to describe it someone, even if they saw it. There is only the experience of having your guts ripped out.

It feels like a fugue state. The sides of your vision get fuzzy, footsteps and breaths feel artificial, forced.

It’s easier to blame particular whipping boys, but I think that is a half-assed analysis.

Here’s what I saw:

I saw an opposing QB sandwich three interceptions around play that is as good as I’ve ever seen from any quarterback. Andrew Luck was absolutely brilliant. That wasn’t just great quarterbacking, it was all-time pantheon quarterbacking.

I saw a wide receiver we didn’t have an answer for, regardless of which corners were in or out of the game.

I saw an artificial surface that should be nuked from orbit. Head injuries on incidental contact like that is somewhat of an aberration, but that many should not happen. I wonder if they replaced the rubber filling with tungsten before the game.

I saw a defense that made a number of excellent plays yet was completely eviscerated. It’s hard to put it all on the D when they gave the offense 17 points via turnovers and won the battle 4-1

I saw an offense score 27 points on its own, and convert another 17 points via turnovers, without its best player for the entirety of the game.

I saw a rookie RB with ball security issues play his ass off as a worthy replacement for our best player.

I saw a quarterback whom many, myself included, derided as a game manager play at a level that no Chiefs QB has in the playoffs in my lifetime. Alex Smith was absolutely magnificent in that game. He did not deserve that loss. He beats almost any QB in history on any day except that QB on that day.

I saw a wide receiver, who is the second best in franchise history and who gets crapped on like he’s Jonny Morton, play a brilliant game.

I saw a free safety who shouldn’t start in the UFL commit the cardinal sin of playing that position.

I saw a head coach whose biggest knack was time management and whose offense was built upon efficiency waste all of its timeouts on offense which turned a 4^th and 11 into a 4^th and the season.

I saw a head coach go for a field goal at the one yard line when every statistical metric says you go for it. Had they converted, the Chiefs would have won the game. Had they not, they still would have had a chance to win that they had at the game’s end.

But what I didn’t see makes me feel just as shitty.

I feel bad for Jamaal, Bowe, Smith, Hali, and others, but I feel terrible for fans that had to experience that.

Sorry milkman, Reaper, OTW, ChiefsCountry, Flopnuts, Rainman, Bob Dole, and countless hundreds of others that populate this site. You didn’t deserve that experience.

I feel like the football antichrist dragged his carcass from the bowels of Hell to smite us one more time.

O.city · 01-04-2014, 08:01 PM

I thought we could have shortened the game a little in the third quarter

HonestChieffan · 01-04-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ROYC75

We still need more talent around him. You switch Luck & Smith today and KC wins, Smith does not. Smith is not nails enough to throw 3 INT's and win, Luck can and has proved it.

Sure we punted once, but settling for FG's when Indy was getting TD's was the game. ( other that our D & Sutton sucks )

Luck did it with the Chiefs simply awful pass coverage. Terrible. Bad. Awful. Don't over do Luck love, he had help. in 15 yard chunks. All game.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 08:02 PM

Every team needs three legit pass rushers and three offensive playmakers at the skill positions in addition to the QB.

The Chiefs have 5/7 of that equation. We need another pass rusher another skill position game breaker, and league average play from the safety position.

tk13 · 01-04-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by lcarus

This secondary as a whole needs some serious work. You'd think with Berry, Flowers, and Cooper who is just a rookie and looked very promising a lot throughout the year, that we'd be in great shape. I just don't get it. This defense has too many good players to suck this bad in this type of game. I don't get it. We have Poe, Hali, Houston, DJ, Berry, Flowers, and solid role guys like Jackson and Devito. And they blow a 38-10 lead in the 2nd half....what gives?

Lewis.

Seriously though... sometimes it just comes down to rushing the passer. Even if you have Pro Bowl DBs everywhere... they can't do squat in today's NFL. They have to cover better than we did today, for sure... but it's quickly becoming a pitch and catch game where you have to try to rush the QB before he can get rid of it. The Giants had a very average set of DBs and won two Super Bowls because their pass rush was great.

ROYC75 · 01-04-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

Serious? We would've won with Luck throwing 3 int ?

Smith as a Colt would not of beaten us throwing 3 INT's, nor will Smith beat hardly anybody throwing 3 INT's.

But let's be honest, Smith is not the reason we lost!

FloridaMan88 · 01-04-2014, 08:02 PM

All the focus on Reid's decision to not go for it on 4th and 1… it should never have come to that if Bowe finishes on his big play and gets into the end zone.

Discuss Thrower · 01-04-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Every team needs three legit pass rushers and three offensive playmakers at the skill positions in addition to the QB.

The Chiefs have 5/7 of that equation. We need another pass rusher another skill position game breaker, and league average play from the safety position.

I don't see them at 5/7. More like 3.5/7.

Dallas Chief · 01-04-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Gray half assed that route imo.

Yep. I can't let that one go either. I cringed all season long every time he was in the game.

ROYC75 · 01-04-2014, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Luck did it with the Chiefs simply awful pass coverage. Terrible. Bad. Awful. Don't over do Luck love, he had help. in 15 yard chunks. All game.

A lot of this, our D was the culprit!

**dirk digler** · 01-04-2014, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

He's not Andrew Luck. After tonight, the QB's I'd least want to face are, in this order:

5) Rodgers
4) Tom Brady
3) Jesus Christ
2) Connor Shaw
1) Andrew Luck

Luck just played one of the best halves in NFL history.

Lol. Just think if Clark Hunt had a brain and would have sucked for Luck how much better this team would be.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 08:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

Smith as a Colt would not of beaten us throwing 3 INT's, nor will Smith beat hardly anybody throwing 3 INT's.

But let's be honest, Smith is not the reason we lost!

No one could beat hardly anyone throwing 3 INTs. Smith didn't throw INTs today. He threw four TD passes and was consistently excellent. How do you blame him for not overcoming mistakes he didn't make?

I don't understand that.

**dirk digler** · 01-04-2014, 08:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HonestChieffan

Luck did it with the Chiefs simply awful pass coverage. Terrible. Bad. Awful. Don't over do Luck love, he had help. in 15 yard chunks. All game.

Definitely agree.

mnchiefsguy · 01-04-2014, 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROYC75

We still need more talent around him. You switch Luck & Smith today and KC wins, Smith does not. Smith is not nails enough to throw 3 INT's and win, Luck can and has proved it.

Sure we punted once, but settling for FG's when Indy was getting TD's was the game. ( other that our D & Sutton sucks )

Gotta disagree....you switch Luck and Smith, and the Chiefs do not recover from Luck throwing 3 INT's.

ROYC75 · 01-04-2014, 08:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

No one could beat hardly anyone throwing 3 INTs. Smith didn't throw INTs today. He threw four TD passes and was consistently excellent. How do you blame him for not overcoming mistakes he didn't make?

I don't understand that.

I don't blame Smith at all for the lost.

But I know he is not good enough to win a SB when the crunch is on without having excellent talent around him and very good play calling.

It is what it is, KC will have to have major upgrade on talent and a better offensive game plan and play calling.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

I don't see them at 5/7. More like 3.5/7.

I can understand that.

01-04-2014, 07:26 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	What I Saw There isn’t a way to quantify a loss like that. There isn’t a way to describe it someone, even if they saw it. There is only the experience of having your guts ripped out. It feels like a fugue state. The sides of your vision get fuzzy, footsteps and breaths feel artificial, forced. It’s easier to blame particular whipping boys, but I think that is a half-assed analysis. Here’s what I saw: I saw an opposing QB sandwich three interceptions around play that is as good as I’ve ever seen from any quarterback. Andrew Luck was absolutely brilliant. That wasn’t just great quarterbacking, it was all-time pantheon quarterbacking. I saw a wide receiver we didn’t have an answer for, regardless of which corners were in or out of the game. I saw an artificial surface that should be nuked from orbit. Head injuries on incidental contact like that is somewhat of an aberration, but that many should not happen. I wonder if they replaced the rubber filling with tungsten before the game. I saw a defense that made a number of excellent plays yet was completely eviscerated. It’s hard to put it all on the D when they gave the offense 17 points via turnovers and won the battle 4-1 I saw an offense score 27 points on its own, and convert another 17 points via turnovers, without its best player for the entirety of the game. I saw a rookie RB with ball security issues play his ass off as a worthy replacement for our best player. I saw a quarterback whom many, myself included, derided as a game manager play at a level that no Chiefs QB has in the playoffs in my lifetime. Alex Smith was absolutely magnificent in that game. He did not deserve that loss. He beats almost any QB in history on any day except that QB on that day. I saw a wide receiver, who is the second best in franchise history and who gets crapped on like he’s Jonny Morton, play a brilliant game. I saw a free safety who shouldn’t start in the UFL commit the cardinal sin of playing that position. I saw a head coach whose biggest knack was time management and whose offense was built upon efficiency waste all of its timeouts on offense which turned a 4^th and 11 into a 4^th and the season. I saw a head coach go for a field goal at the one yard line when every statistical metric says you go for it. Had they converted, the Chiefs would have won the game. Had they not, they still would have had a chance to win that they had at the game’s end. But what I didn’t see makes me feel just as shitty. I feel bad for Jamaal, Bowe, Smith, Hali, and others, but I feel terrible for fans that had to experience that. Sorry milkman, Reaper, OTW, ChiefsCountry, Flopnuts, Rainman, Bob Dole, and countless hundreds of others that populate this site. You didn’t deserve that experience. I feel like the football antichrist dragged his carcass from the bowels of Hell to smite us one more time.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Every team needs three legit pass rushers and three offensive playmakers at the skill positions in addition to the QB. The Chiefs have 5/7 of that equation. We need another pass rusher another skill position game breaker, and league average play from the safety position. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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