Chiefs What I Saw - Page 7

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 07:26 PM

There isn’t a way to quantify a loss like that. There isn’t a way to describe it someone, even if they saw it. There is only the experience of having your guts ripped out.

It feels like a fugue state. The sides of your vision get fuzzy, footsteps and breaths feel artificial, forced.

It’s easier to blame particular whipping boys, but I think that is a half-assed analysis.

Here’s what I saw:

I saw an opposing QB sandwich three interceptions around play that is as good as I’ve ever seen from any quarterback. Andrew Luck was absolutely brilliant. That wasn’t just great quarterbacking, it was all-time pantheon quarterbacking.

I saw a wide receiver we didn’t have an answer for, regardless of which corners were in or out of the game.

I saw an artificial surface that should be nuked from orbit. Head injuries on incidental contact like that is somewhat of an aberration, but that many should not happen. I wonder if they replaced the rubber filling with tungsten before the game.

I saw a defense that made a number of excellent plays yet was completely eviscerated. It’s hard to put it all on the D when they gave the offense 17 points via turnovers and won the battle 4-1

I saw an offense score 27 points on its own, and convert another 17 points via turnovers, without its best player for the entirety of the game.

I saw a rookie RB with ball security issues play his ass off as a worthy replacement for our best player.

I saw a quarterback whom many, myself included, derided as a game manager play at a level that no Chiefs QB has in the playoffs in my lifetime. Alex Smith was absolutely magnificent in that game. He did not deserve that loss. He beats almost any QB in history on any day except that QB on that day.

I saw a wide receiver, who is the second best in franchise history and who gets crapped on like he’s Jonny Morton, play a brilliant game.

I saw a free safety who shouldn’t start in the UFL commit the cardinal sin of playing that position.

I saw a head coach whose biggest knack was time management and whose offense was built upon efficiency waste all of its timeouts on offense which turned a 4^th and 11 into a 4^th and the season.

I saw a head coach go for a field goal at the one yard line when every statistical metric says you go for it. Had they converted, the Chiefs would have won the game. Had they not, they still would have had a chance to win that they had at the game’s end.

But what I didn’t see makes me feel just as shitty.

I feel bad for Jamaal, Bowe, Smith, Hali, and others, but I feel terrible for fans that had to experience that.

Sorry milkman, Reaper, OTW, ChiefsCountry, Flopnuts, Rainman, Bob Dole, and countless hundreds of others that populate this site. You didn’t deserve that experience.

I feel like the football antichrist dragged his carcass from the bowels of Hell to smite us one more time.

lcarus · 01-04-2014, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Lewis.

Seriously though... sometimes it just comes down to rushing the passer. Even if you have Pro Bowl DBs everywhere... they can't do squat in today's NFL. They have to cover better than we did today, for sure... but it's quickly becoming a pitch and catch game where you have to try to rush the QB before he can get rid of it. The Giants had a very average set of DBs and won two Super Bowls because their pass rush was great.

Yeah I hear ya. But that's the thing - our pass rush was superb for the majority of our games this season. Obviously it declined as the season wore on, and especially when we lost Justin Houston. But with Hali and Houston on the outside, Poe demanding double teams in the middle, Derrick Johnson occasionally getting some nice blitzes, Eric Berry occasionally getting some nice blitzes - I just don't understand how our pass rush could be completely neutralized like that. I know for a fact the Colts got away with a ton of holdings, as did we. The league as a whole just doesn't like to call holding anymore it seems.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 08:09 PM

30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks.

Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one.

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

FloridaMan88 · 01-04-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

Bowe was short on several key plays… not getting into the end zone on the first quarter play and not getting both feet in bounds on the final play.

Would those be difficult/great plays to achieve? Yes, but that is what you expect from a $50+ million WR.

ThaVirus · 01-04-2014, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

I thought we could have shortened the game a little in the third quarter

****ing Andy Reid.

His inability to call a few running plays and bleed the ****ing clock is frustrating as all hell. We were up 28 points and still throwing the ball as much as we ran it. You just don't ****ing do that.

Pasta Little Brioni · 01-04-2014, 08:11 PM

Spot on man. I am numb right now, but damn Alex was amazing today.

ROYC75 · 01-04-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks.

Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one.

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

I'm not harping on Alex here, he played a great game, only had minimal mistakes.

This game is clearly on the defense and Sutton.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 01-04-2014, 08:12 PM

Calvin Johnson was tackled at the one a half dozen times last year. Most WR's aren't able to break the tackle that led to that 70 yard gain, and if Hemingway has any awareness, he walks in regardless. Moreover, the playcalling in the G2G situation was pretty poor.

Dwayne Bowe is the only reason the team was in position to score that TD, and now he's the reason why we kicked a FG?

I don't think I live in the same reality as some of you.

ThaVirus · 01-04-2014, 08:12 PM

Yes.

Bowe beats his man and breaks two tackles on the way for a 60 yard gain that puts us at the 1 yard line.. And he's at fault.

tk13 · 01-04-2014, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks.

Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one.

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

It wasn't quite this bad after 03, but it's the same general idea. If the offense literally doesn't play perfect, it's not good enough. There's really no way to argue with it. I can't deal with it.

jspchief · 01-04-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks.

Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one.

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

And the stats don't tell the story of his quick decisions and the use of his legs that bailed out a ton of plays today.

Smith has limitations, but he rose to the occasion today. The Chiefs lost their biggest playmaker and Smith put the offense on his shoulders.

Sure-Oz · 01-04-2014, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks.

Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one.

Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1

We have some very stupid people on this board.

**Mav** · 01-04-2014, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yes.

Bowe beats his man and breaks two tackles on the way for a 60 yard gain that puts us at the 1 yard line.. And he's at fault.

no. I have been as tough on Bowe as anyone. He had that drop, and I didn't like that he let that d b body him to the boundry on the last play....

But he PLAYED A HELL OF A GAME.

Redcoats58 · 01-04-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

Gray half assed that route imo.

That's what I saw as well, Gray hesitated a bit so it looked like Smith overthrew him, he keeps running full stride that's a TD.

ROYC75 · 01-04-2014, 08:16 PM

The biggest issue we had on offense beside Charles & Davis going down was the continuous disappearing attacking offense in the 3rd qtr, play calling!

Sutton and the D, Just like Robinson and the D in 03.

FloridaMan88 · 01-04-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus

Yes.

Bowe beats his man and breaks two tackles on the way for a 60 yard gain that puts us at the 1 yard line.. And he's at fault.

If he doesn't look backwards and try to lateral the ball he's likely in the end zone.

$50+ million WR's finish that play.

01-04-2014, 07:26 PM
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	What I Saw There isn’t a way to quantify a loss like that. There isn’t a way to describe it someone, even if they saw it. There is only the experience of having your guts ripped out. It feels like a fugue state. The sides of your vision get fuzzy, footsteps and breaths feel artificial, forced. It’s easier to blame particular whipping boys, but I think that is a half-assed analysis. Here’s what I saw: I saw an opposing QB sandwich three interceptions around play that is as good as I’ve ever seen from any quarterback. Andrew Luck was absolutely brilliant. That wasn’t just great quarterbacking, it was all-time pantheon quarterbacking. I saw a wide receiver we didn’t have an answer for, regardless of which corners were in or out of the game. I saw an artificial surface that should be nuked from orbit. Head injuries on incidental contact like that is somewhat of an aberration, but that many should not happen. I wonder if they replaced the rubber filling with tungsten before the game. I saw a defense that made a number of excellent plays yet was completely eviscerated. It’s hard to put it all on the D when they gave the offense 17 points via turnovers and won the battle 4-1 I saw an offense score 27 points on its own, and convert another 17 points via turnovers, without its best player for the entirety of the game. I saw a rookie RB with ball security issues play his ass off as a worthy replacement for our best player. I saw a quarterback whom many, myself included, derided as a game manager play at a level that no Chiefs QB has in the playoffs in my lifetime. Alex Smith was absolutely magnificent in that game. He did not deserve that loss. He beats almost any QB in history on any day except that QB on that day. I saw a wide receiver, who is the second best in franchise history and who gets crapped on like he’s Jonny Morton, play a brilliant game. I saw a free safety who shouldn’t start in the UFL commit the cardinal sin of playing that position. I saw a head coach whose biggest knack was time management and whose offense was built upon efficiency waste all of its timeouts on offense which turned a 4^th and 11 into a 4^th and the season. I saw a head coach go for a field goal at the one yard line when every statistical metric says you go for it. Had they converted, the Chiefs would have won the game. Had they not, they still would have had a chance to win that they had at the game’s end. But what I didn’t see makes me feel just as shitty. I feel bad for Jamaal, Bowe, Smith, Hali, and others, but I feel terrible for fans that had to experience that. Sorry milkman, Reaper, OTW, ChiefsCountry, Flopnuts, Rainman, Bob Dole, and countless hundreds of others that populate this site. You didn’t deserve that experience. I feel like the football antichrist dragged his carcass from the bowels of Hell to smite us one more time.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	30/46 for 378 4TDs and 0 picks. Show me a Chiefs QB that ever played a better playoff game than that, because I don't know of one. Christ, people are bitching about Bowe after going 8/150/1 __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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01-04-2014, 08:12 PM	#97
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7149572	Calvin Johnson was tackled at the one a half dozen times last year. Most WR's aren't able to break the tackle that led to that 70 yard gain, and if Hemingway has any awareness, he walks in regardless. Moreover, the playcalling in the G2G situation was pretty poor. Dwayne Bowe is the only reason the team was in position to score that TD, and now he's the reason why we kicked a FG? I don't think I live in the same reality as some of you. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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ThaVirus 5 o’clock free crack giveaway Join Date: Sep 2007 Casino cash: $-1787631	Yes. Bowe beats his man and breaks two tackles on the way for a 60 yard gain that puts us at the 1 yard line.. And he's at fault.
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01-04-2014, 08:16 PM	#104
ROYC75 Time For Your Wake Up Call !!! Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Barn Yard Casino cash: $2170400	The biggest issue we had on offense beside Charles & Davis going down was the continuous disappearing attacking offense in the 3rd qtr, play calling! Sutton and the D, Just like Robinson and the D in 03. __________________ Our society is run by insane people for insane objectives. I think we're being run by maniacs for maniacal ends and I think I'm liable to be put away as insane for expressing that. That's what's insane about it. John Lennon
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