Kendrick Lewis vs. Lin El - you know.

[Rain Man]

I shall forever be haunted by the vision of Kendrick Lewis running five yards behind that hotel guy on the long touchdown pass. There was no coverage at all. None. Zero. The hotel guy ran down the field and the second-year NFL legend just tossed him the ball. If Kendrick Lewis had been in the locker room watching Clockwork Orange instead of standing on the field, it would have made no difference at all.

So when we consider the two situations, we can make an argument for one of two players being the GOATest (Goatest of all time) against the Colts, if we disregard off-field contributors like Paul Hackett and Herm Edwards.

The argument for The Safety Who Shall Not Be Named to be the GOATest:

The Baltimore Colts or whoever they are are behind by six points. The safety who shall not be named let a wide receiver run more or less straight down the field for a 50+ yard touchdown catch, and at no point was within three yards of said receiver. The receiver, who no one had ever heard of before this game, ended up with the third-highest receiving yardage total in NFL playoff history. All we had to do was protect a 28-point lead for 1.5 quarters of football.

The argument against The Safety Who Shall Not Be Named to be the GOATest:

The modern NFL is designed to make defensive backs look like chumps. If the safety had approached within three yards of the wide receiver, he would have been called for holding or interference. The marketing department has declared that Andrew Luck will be the hero, not some defensive back who wasn't even a first round pick. Also, there were plenty of opportunities to replace Lewis since it was clear that he was struggling for most of the season, and the Chiefs didn't do it. Finally, we know that the NFL marketing department threatened Lewis' life if he didn't take a fall.

The argument for The Kicker Who Shall Not Be Named to be the GOATest:

The Baltimore Colts or whoever they are are ahead by three points. The kicker who shall not be named missed a 42 yard field goal to tie the game up, adding to the two others that he missed earlier in the game that were 35 and 39 yards. His main job was to make field goals, and he went 0 for 3 when it counted most. The team was much stronger and expectations were higher, so his sin is worse.

The argument against The Kicker Who Shall Not Be Named to be the GOATest:

It was one of the coldest games in NFL history, and the ball was a brick. The other kicker missed 2 of 3 attempts, so it's clear that it was a terrible day to be a kicker. Paul Hackett is to blame for the worst game plan in NFL history. There is also some evidence that the NFL marketing department threatened Elliott's life if he didn't take a fall.

Obviously, it's a team game yadda yadda yadda. Feel free to add arguments for or against.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by Cochise

Lewis is terrible, but everyone in the secondary was getting clowned last night.

Not really. I was watching a video of an NFL analyst that breaks down almost every single statistical aspect of the game. Kendrick Lewis was responsible for over 130 yards in receptions allowed in 6 or 7 catches and 2 TDs, which is twice the amount of the next worst offender, Dunta Robinson, who gave up 4 catches for 60+ yards and a TD. Sean Smith did give up quit a bit of yardage, but only two passes were completed on him, one being that crazy catch, so I won't be too hard on him.

The other defenders were, actually, half-way decent. Hand it to the Colts offensive staff. They knew who to target when they were in the game and just crushed them both.

[Three7s]

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler

Lewis is bad, but 35 points surrendered in 10 minutes doesn't fall on just one guy no matter how badly he played. Receivers were running free constantly no matter who lined up on them. Flowers, Smith, Robinson, Abdullah, Cooper, Berry, all were getting toasted quite handily, and quite repeatedly.


The kicker has one job.

Kick.

If he had a ****ing problem with the shoe on his plant foot as he claimed, WHY DIDNT HE CHANGE THE ****ING SHOE AFTER THE FIRST KICK?

Its a lie. There was no problem with the shoe. Guy was struggling to make PAT attempts earlier in the season.

He had 3 shots at very makeable field goals even for the most average NFL kicker. He blew every one of them and we lost by 3 points.

**** that guy. Seriously. Heard he tried to hang himself but couldn't manage to kick the stool out from under himself.

Wrong. Flowers, Cooper, and Smith all played fairly average for CB standards. Robinson and Lewis were awful and the Colts were torching them the whole game. Abdullah was actually pretty good from what I saw. I will agree, Berry didn't perform at the level we'd all expect, but he wasn't the reason we lost. It was 200 yards and 3 TDs given up by two defensive non-players.

[rico]

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch

1995 we were a legit SB threat so Lin is far worse. Not even close. Plus he later insulted the org when he went to Dallas or wherever.

Really? I don't remember that.. what did he say when he went to Dallas?

Wasn't he on one of KC's AM radio stations 5-6 years ago? Did anyone catch it? If so, how'd it go? That final field goal, the crowd's reaction and that dude's face is an image that has stuck with me forever...and I was only 11-12 years old, pissed off and punching shit when it happened. I've always wanted to see/hear that asswipe's thoughts on that shit... the only thing I remember reading about from the interview is that he wasn't able to wear the same shoe that he was used to wearing or something and that it was the first time that he had worn that type of shoe.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by rico

Really? I don't remember that.. what did he say when he went to Dallas?

Wasn't he on one of KC's AM radio stations 5-6 years ago? Did anyone catch it? If so, how'd it go? That final field goal, the crowd's reaction and that dude's face is an image that has stuck with me forever...and I was only 11-12 years old, pissed off and punching shit when it happened. I've always wanted to see/hear that asswipe's thoughts on that shit... the only thing I remember reading about from the interview is that he wasn't able to wear the same shoe that he was used to wearing or something and that it was the first time that he had worn that type of shoe.

Actually, the Colts game was Elliott's last game in the NFL. He was at Dallas before he came to the Chiefs.

I saw an interview with him once. He basically said the only thing he could say, something like "I hated the misses, but it was hard to kick out there. The other kicker missed two out of three himself."

The interesting thing about Elliott was that he actually had a good career for the Chiefs on field goal up until that miss. He was slightly more accurate in his two years in KC than Nick Lowery was.

[BossChief]

Originally Posted by BossChief

I seriously think Lewis s gonna lose this one for us.

Originally Posted by BossChief

Honestly...I think that we have a better than 50/50 shot at a win in Lewis doesn't play as much as usual.

It's like playing with 10 defenders when he is out there.

Originally Posted by BossChief

The reason we will lose: Kendrick Lewis

Originally Posted by BossChief

We have all seen this chapter of the book many times.

Lord....please don't let Sutton play Lewis in the playoff game in Indy.

He will forever be known as the safety that shall go nameless.

In fact...can we get a filter put in place?

From 12/29

[rico]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Actually, the Colts game was Elliott's last game in the NFL. He was at Dallas before he came to the Chiefs.

I saw an interview with him once. He basically said the only thing he could say, something like "I hated the misses, but it was hard to kick out there. The other kicker missed two out of three himself."

The interesting thing about Elliott was that he actually had a good career for the Chiefs on field goal up until that miss. He was slightly more accurate in his two years in KC than Nick Lowery was.

Hmm... That's interdasting. I did not know that.

I've always thought the kicker that shall go unnamedt has been short-changed when it comes to post-season Kicker biffs and their notoriety for them.... That Gary Anderson guy seems to get all the credit. Heck...he was even a subtopic on "How I Met Your Mother." You'll never see the kicker who has the same first name as this chick who was a royal slut a few grades behind me on a show like "How I Met Your Mother."

[CoMoChief]

It wasnt ALL Lewis' fault. Chiefs had a 28pt lead and choked. We didnt touch Luck the defense didnt blitz much.

Those missed FGs were all LE's fault.

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

Actually, the Colts game was Elliott's last game in the NFL. He was at Dallas before he came to the Chiefs.

I saw an interview with him once. He basically said the only thing he could say, something like "I hated the misses, but it was hard to kick out there. The other kicker missed two out of three himself."

The interesting thing about Elliott was that he actually had a good career for the Chiefs on field goal up until that miss. He was slightly more accurate in his two years in KC than Nick Lowery was.

Wasnt LE missing FGs prior to that game...he was kinda on a cold streak and that carried over into the playoffs. I was like 10 I barely remember specifics.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

Wasnt LE missing FGs prior to that game...he was kinda on a cold streak and that carried over into the playoffs. I was like 10 I barely remember specifics.

I vaguely remember that, too. He was running a little cold.

The weird thing about Elliott is that he had trouble with extra points. His FG percentage was actually pretty good for his era, but his extra point percentage was terrible, both with the Chiefs and the Cowboys. He was a 95.8% extra point guy, compared with 98.9 for Lowery, 98.8 for Morten Andersen, 99.2 for Gary Anderson, and so on. Granted, he hit 24 out of every 25 extra points, but that's four times the miss rate that the top kickers had.

Elliott's career field goal rate was actually also terrible, but that's because he struggled at Dallas. Both years with KC he was pretty good on field goals. I wonder why.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by CoMoChief

It wasnt ALL Lewis' fault. Chiefs had a 28pt lead and choked. We didnt touch Luck the defense didnt blitz much.

Those missed FGs were all LE's fault.

You could say the same thing about the team LE was on.


The team screwed up too much and had to kick field goals. If they didn't choke in the redzone they wouldn't of need LE to kick.

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

You could say the same thing about the team LE was on.


The team screwed up too much and had to kick field goals. If they didn't choke in the redzone they wouldn't of need LE to kick.

Yeah, I tend to view a one-touchdown offense as being in the same realm of futility as a 45-point defense. It's nearly impossible to win with either.

[BossChief]

Hopefully, these guys can find a way to mix the defense from before the bye with the offense from after the bye.

We do that next year, were golden.

[threebag]

Clockwork Orange Rep

[CoMoChief]

Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

You could say the same thing about the team LE was on.


The team screwed up too much and had to kick field goals. If they didn't choke in the redzone they wouldn't of need LE to kick.

I understand the viewpoint I was just more trying to point out in a previous post where the choke job by the defense was an entire team effort whereas LE's FG misses were at his fault alone. LE makes the FG's , the Chiefs win the game. Obviously on Sat, if the Chiefs defense doesn't stop luck PERIOD, they would eventually lose the game.

EIther way...both resulted in same outcome......**** this god damn team.

[trndobrd]

Nobody in their right mind believed this was THE year. Yeah, a playoff win would have been great, broken the drought, capped off a great rebuilding year, etc. etc. But this was never THE year. Lewis was a liability all season, and followed true to form during the post season. But, his failure did nothing more than make the inevitable playoff loss come sooner.

The kicker who cannot be named cost us a Super Bowl.