****Official Kansas vs Oklahoma State (1/18/14) Thread****

[TLO]

Rock Chalk **** you Marcus Smart

~Predictions~
KU wins by 10.
Wiggins has another double double.
Embiid choke slams Marcus Smart though the Jayhawk at center court and is offered a contract to join the WWE From Vince McMahon who is in attendance.
Frankcamp hits three 3 point shots.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

JFC.

Trying to draw fouls is cheating?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

Smart is a great player.

If you want flopping to be out of the game, tell officials to get better. If a ball goes out of bounds of you, but the official misses the call, it's not the fault of the player. Same as flopping.

Exactly. If you can exploit the inadequacy of the officials, I don't see what's wrong with doing everything in your power to do it.

[Bearcat]

I do wish the rules would change though... in the NHL, flopping can be called, but the original penalty is always called, too. If it's obvious enough, just call the flopping. In basketball, refs simply shouldn't call that crap.

[O.city]

Of course when he does it I don't like it, being a KU fan, because it hurts my team. But it's definately a skill to have.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by O.city

Trying to draw fouls is cheating?

There's a difference between drawing a foul (ie you're legitimately fouled) and trying to convince the refs that you were fouled when you weren't.

For crying out loud, Smart GRABBED HIS FACE as if he'd been hit by Mike Tyson.

That's a bitch move. Can't respect that.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Silock

There's a difference between drawing a foul (ie you're legitimately fouled) and trying to convince the refs that you were fouled when you weren't.

For crying out loud, Smart GRABBED HIS FACE as if he'd been hit by Mike Tyson.

That's a bitch move. Can't respect that.

Then I expect you don't like it when a KU player drives to the basket, gets stripped, but throws his hands up trying to draw a foul call?

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Buehler445

Man. I hate to bitch about the officials, but mother**** that bullshit ass call on Selden. I ****ing hate that call to start with. Crawl up on top of a guy and he goddamn can't move or it's a charge. That's ****ing nonsense. Just mind boggling nonsense. AND THEN that one who sucks the penis flops without any contact at all and it is a flagrant one? ****. That. Bullshit.

That being said, I fully acknowledge we got a LOT better calls than they did in the first half.

Man, I don't remember OSU being suck ****ing dirty flopping trash talking ****s. I don't think Smart used to flop so much, not sure what his deal was today, but **** it was effective. He got a shitload of them. And **** all those bitches that want to start fights. I don't want to see that shit. That's where I have to give Smart credit. He was pulling all his guys out of being ****ing ****heads, and it wasn't enough. I didn't hate OSU before. **** those bitches today.

And seriously, why would you pick a fight with Traylor? That dude is a ****ing beast physically. He'd eat everyone's soul on that court.

I actually think all of the technicals on KU were pretty questionable, as was the second one on Brown. Traylor literally did nothing to deserve his (other than getting yelled at by Brown), Selden barely grazed a flopping Smart (have no idea how the refs didn't notice that or why Greg Anthony didn't call him out for flopping on the broadcast), and Embiid's was the result of a reflex action after getting hit in the face himself.

We got the benefit of the calls overall, I'd say, but the last 2 Ts really did change the momentum of the game.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

I do wish the rules would change though... in the NHL, flopping can be called, but the original penalty is always called, too. If it's obvious enough, just call the flopping. In basketball, refs simply shouldn't call that crap.

Until they do, though, I'm not going to blame anybody for trying to exploit them. It helps their team to do so.

[Ceej]

I can't imagine how crazy the officiating may be in Stillwater.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by O.city

Then I expect you don't like it when a KU player drives to the basket, gets stripped, but throws his hands up trying to draw a foul call?

Sometimes your hands continue to go up when the ball is stripped because of momentum.

I also don't really have a problem with selling a legitimate foul call (like exaggerating a motion when you actually WERE fouled to draw the attention of the official).

If they're straight up acting? No, I don't like it. Luckily, we don't see much of that out of the Crimson and Blue.

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by O.city

Trying to draw fouls is cheating?

It's obviously intentional, so to say it's the ref's fault and not the fault of the player is absurd. It's one thing to get a player in the air and draw a foul (which IMO is really annoying when the shooter is obviously initiating contact by jumping into the defender) or drive to the basket on someone who has 4 fouls or whatever, but there is no skill with flopping or crying to the refs.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Silock

Sometimes your hands continue to go up when the ball is stripped because of momentum.

I also don't really have a problem with selling a legitimate foul call (like exaggerating a motion when you actually WERE fouled to draw the attention of the official).

If they're straight up acting? No, I don't like it. Luckily, we don't see much of that out of the Crimson and Blue.

AMEN.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Silock

Sometimes your hands continue to go up when the ball is stripped because of momentum.

I also don't really have a problem with selling a legitimate foul call (like exaggerating a motion when you actually WERE fouled to draw the attention of the official).

If they're straight up acting? No, I don't like it. Luckily, we don't see much of that out of the Crimson and Blue.

Selling a call is cheating though, right? If there is a legitimate foul, no need to sell it.

[Bearcat]

Releford flopped every once in a while... annoyed the shit out of me.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Ceej

I can't imagine how crazy the officiating may be in Stillwater.

You know all the calls at the basket that Smart wasn't getting today? He's going to get them. And more.

We're going to have to stay focused for the full 40 to stay in it.