****Official Kansas vs Oklahoma State (1/18/14) Thread****

[TLO]

Rock Chalk **** you Marcus Smart

~Predictions~
KU wins by 10.
Wiggins has another double double.
Embiid choke slams Marcus Smart though the Jayhawk at center court and is offered a contract to join the WWE From Vince McMahon who is in attendance.
Frankcamp hits three 3 point shots.

[O.city]

Looking ahead, what KU needs to really do, is just win the games they should.

Sweep TCU, Tech, WVU, Texas and win at home, they should lock it up.

[Mr. Plow]

Originally Posted by Ceej

HAYE GIZE.

IOWA STATE LOSTED TODAY!!!11

I suspect Rust will be quiet this week.

[Ceej]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I suspect Rust will be quiet this week.

BOOOOOO!!!

[O.city]

Winning sneaky games, like at KSU, OU and ISU at home will be what wins the conference.


IIRC, OSU still has ISU, and OU to play 2 each.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

Looking ahead, what KU needs to really do, is just win the games they should.

Sweep TCU, Tech, WVU, Texas and win at home, they should lock it up.

Yeah, hold serve at home (ISU/BU toughest games there) and win 3-4 of the remaining 7 road games. That will get it done.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Yeah, hold serve at home (ISU/BU toughest games there) and win 3-4 of the remaining 7 road games. That will get it done.

OU isn't bad, but I think KU is probably 10-15 points better at home than they are on the road.

Really, just win the games you should, beat pesky KSU, Baylor on the road and finish it off.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Embellishing to deceive is the same thing in principle, though. It's about getting a call in your favor.

It's not a deception if you were actually fouled. If you're deceiving, by definition, you're trying to convince someone else of something that isn't true (like being fouled). If you were actually fouled, it can't be a deception.

Also, players sometimes embellish out of frustration of a no-call. I can't blame a guy for getting frustrated. But he shouldn't benefit because of it. It's just far more tolerable and understandable than, say, getting all up on a guy and then pretending you got hit in the jaw by an elbow when you clearly weren't.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by O.city

OU isn't bad, but I think KU is probably 10-15 points better at home than they are on the road.

Really, just win the games you should, beat pesky KSU, Baylor on the road and finish it off.

4 losses in this conference definitely wins it, I'd say. Maybe even 5. There's a ton of good teams (the only total pushover is TCU).

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

It's not a deception if you were actually fouled. If you're deceiving, by definition, you're trying to convince someone else of something that isn't true (like being fouled). If you were actually fouled, it can't be a deception.

Also, players sometimes embellish out of frustration of a no-call. I can't blame a guy for getting frustrated. But he shouldn't benefit because of it. It's just far more tolerable and understandable than, say, getting all up on a guy and then pretending you got hit in the jaw by an elbow when you clearly weren't.

Ideally, the game of basketball would be one where objective officials were making objective calls. That's what the game aspires to be. But, as we all know from watching years of games at AFH (and reaping the benefits of it), there's a huge element of subjectivity to it at all. And until that goes away (if it ever will), I cannot blame a player for trying to embellish/fake a call to take advantage of that fact. Unfortunate or not, it's just a part of the game (and some players like Smart and the NBA players I named are far better than others at it). I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by Braincase

Being Embiid.

The one that got me was the Flagrant 1 on Selden, when Smart put on the acting show. Officials didn't do a thing about the Smart's backhand to Selden's crotch that happened at the same time.

dam straight

The refs were going to make a point with Embiid from the first second of the game.

tbh Today Embiid started 'flopping' a little out of self-defense

[Al Czervik]

Originally Posted by Mr. Plow

I suspect Rust will be quiet this week.

That would make it two weeks in a row....****ing pussy......
Runs his mouth and after two straight losses...He pulls a Keitzman.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Ideally, the game of basketball would be one where objective officials were making objective calls. That's what the game aspires to be. But, as we all know from watching years of games at AFH (and reaping the benefits of it), there's a huge element of subjectivity to it at all. And until that goes away (if it ever will), I cannot blame a player for trying to embellish/fake a call to take advantage of that fact. Unfortunate or not, it's just a part of the game (and some players like Smart and the NBA players I named are far better than others at it). I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on that.

I just don't play sports that way, and I expect others to do the same.

[KC_Connection]

Originally Posted by Silock

I just don't play sports that way, and I expect others to do the same.

When I played sports competitively, I played them to win. And to me, that's all those guys are really trying to do.

[Silock]

Originally Posted by KC_Connection

When I played sports competitively, I played them to win. And to me, that's all those guys are really trying to do.

I can't take solace in winning via cheating. It doesn't feel legitimate. And believe me, I've played soccer all my life, so I've won more than a couple of games because one of our strikers took a dive. Still doesn't sit well with me. I don't feel like we really won those games.

[Sorce]

I'm gonna go ahead and leave this here...