Chiefs Game manager. What is that exactly? - Page 5

Earthling · 01-30-2014, 12:17 PM

During the course of the season the term 'game manager' has been used frequently to describe certain QB's in the league; usually in a negative sense. I was curious if there is a consensus on just what the heck that means to people here.

To me a game manager isn't a bad thing. I see it as someone who tries to keep moving the chains, and if that takes three plays of 4 yard gains, be it running or passing, that's ok as long as the chains keep moving.

Of course if the team is down by several scores, or time becomes an issue, then longer chunks of yardage would be necessary. To me a game manager would recognize that fact and try to manage the game accordingly at that point.

What do you all think? And is the opposite of a game manager a game mis-manager?

splatbass · 01-31-2014, 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Jimmya

What's funny is that you guys will NOT call him a game manager even though non other than Andy Reid called Smith a game manager on an nfl network interview.

But he didn't mean it as a negative thing like you do.

Bl00dyBizkitz · 01-31-2014, 12:25 AM

I may be wrong, but I feel like "game manager" and "franchise quarterback" are terms that weren't used until maybe a couple years ago?

If that's true, I would say it's the media's attempt to put more attention on the QB, since the league is lead by QB's nowadays.

A Quarterback's job is to keep the chains moving and put the team in a position to score, and at the same time, preventing the team from being put in a bad position. Game Manager QB's as well as Playmaker QB's do this. QB's that fail to do both of these things are just bad QB's.

el borracho · 01-31-2014, 01:51 AM

A game manager is a guy who throws for less than 25 touchdowns in his "career year". An elite guy throws for 40-50 touchdowns and/or wins the Super Bowl in his career year. Hope that helps.

splatbass · 01-31-2014, 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

A game manager is a guy who throws for less than 25 touchdowns in his "career year". An elite guy throws for 40-50 touchdowns and/or wins the Super Bowl in his career year. Hope that helps.

Not really.

listopencil · 01-31-2014, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by splatbass

I think most NFL coaches would disagree with this. A player can be both.

Not really, if you are trying to assign a QB to a category. A game manager gets the ball to the playmakers.

chiefzilla1501 · 01-31-2014, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

Not really, if you are trying to assign a QB to a category. A game manager gets the ball to the playmakers.

Good game managers become playmakers on third down and in the 4th quarter. I see where he's coming from. I can't stand this idea that QBs who throw for a ton of yards/TDs are franchise, and low yardage/low TD QBs are automatically game managers.

listopencil · 01-31-2014, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Good game managers become playmakers on third down and in the 4th quarter. I see where he's coming from. I can't stand this idea that QBs who throw for a ton of yards/TDs are franchise, and low yardage/low TD QBs are automatically game managers.

I would say that it's typically not being a playmaker to throw an easy three yard completion on third and two. Or, for that matter, to play field position with a five point lead in the fourth quarter because you know your Defense isn't going to let the other team score. It's all relative.

listopencil · 01-31-2014, 02:45 AM

You have to differentiate between a QB who is a "game manager" and a QB with game management skills that can make plays.

WhiteWhale · 01-31-2014, 03:18 AM

It's a meaningless bullshit buzz phrase.

splatbass · 01-31-2014, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by listopencil

You have to differentiate between a QB who is a "game manager" and a QB with game management skills that can make plays.

My point is that the internet definition of game manager is different than most coaches definition. I'm real sure that Andy Reid would consider Alex Smith's performance in the playoff game to be as both a game manager and a playmaker.

splatbass · 01-31-2014, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhale

It's a meaningless bullshit buzz phrase.

Exactly. It is a term amateurs use to describe a QB they don't like.

Jiu Jitsu Jon · 02-01-2014, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by MAYHEM

A QB that does what he's told, and doesn't go off script. Alex Smith is gold in that department.

"What play do you want to run?

Dunno. You call it."

Game manger right there.

**007** · 02-01-2014, 05:15 AM

Technically, Tom Brady is a game manager. But he is a DAMN GOOD ONE.

Hammock Parties · 02-01-2014, 08:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Guru

Technically, Tom Brady is a game manager. But he is a DAMN GOOD ONE.

Wrong.

Jimmya · 02-01-2014, 08:13 AM

As Dilfer said the term game manager is only a negative term until that qb wins the superbowl. So I guess we'll see.

01-30-2014, 12:17 PM
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Bl00dyBizkitz Veteran Join Date: Nov 2013 Casino cash: $-951581	I may be wrong, but I feel like "game manager" and "franchise quarterback" are terms that weren't used until maybe a couple years ago? If that's true, I would say it's the media's attempt to put more attention on the QB, since the league is lead by QB's nowadays. A Quarterback's job is to keep the chains moving and put the team in a position to score, and at the same time, preventing the team from being put in a bad position. Game Manager QB's as well as Playmaker QB's do this. QB's that fail to do both of these things are just bad QB's. Last edited by Bl00dyBizkitz; 01-31-2014 at 12:32 AM..
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