Chiefs Shields not elected to Hall of Fame - Page 2

Eleazar · 02-01-2014, 06:47 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-0932e7362447

The team's former guard honored to be on the HOF ballot

The Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee announced Saturday that the following group will be enshrined as part of the Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014 in Canton, Ohio on Aug. 2.

SENIOR NOMINEES

Ray Guy - Punter - 14 seasons, 207 games; Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders (1973-1986)

Claude Humphrey - DE - 14 seasons, 171 games; Atlanta Falcons (1968-1978) (1975 inj. res.) Philadelphia Eagles (1979-1981)

FIRST-YEAR ELIGIBLES

Derrick Brooks - LB -Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995-2008) 14 seasons, 224 games

Walter Jones - OL - Seattle Seahawks (1997-2008) 12 seasons, 180 games

MODERN-ERA PLAYERS

Andre Reed - WR - 16 seasons, 234 games; Buffalo Bills (1985-1999) Washington Redskins (2000)

Michael Strahan - DE - 15 seasons, 216 games; New York Giants (1993-2007)

Aeneas Williams - CB/Safety - 14 seasons, 211 games; Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals (1991-2000) St. Louis Rams (2001-04)

Former Chiefs guard Will Shields says despite not being part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's 2014 Class, he's grateful to be mentioned among the greats of the game.

"It’s a great honor to be on that list," Shields said. "Me not getting in doesn’t tarnish anything that's been done over the 14 years of my career. It's still a positive thing. It's okay. There’s nothing I can do to change it. There are a lot of great guys that have played and had great careers on the field and some of them had great careers off the field. All I can say is I put my best foot forward and did everything I possibly could, on the field and off the field. My goal was to be the best teammate, the best player to always end up in the top-tier of what I did and then everything else falls into place after that. That’s sort of the way I looked at my career. Every day I stepped on the field, I wanted to be the best player I could be, on that day, and then after that, whatever happens, happens; I can’t control anything beyond that. I can control my little space, helping out my tackle or helping out my center, or those kind of things, and beyond that, I really can’t control the other pieces. I’ve done what I can do and I have to let the chips fall where they may."

Here's to hoping the chips fall in favor of Will, next season, for the Class of 2015.

chiefzilla1501 · 02-01-2014, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Rain Man

Last year they gave his bust to Jonathan Ogden, and this year they gave it to Walter Jones. It's ridiculous.

Agreed, though Walter Jones was a pretty good Left Tackle.

I'm more pissed that they gave a spot to a ****ing punter. It's a shame Dr. Z isn't still writing. He was the main reason Guy never made it in the Hall, and it should have stayed that way.

Deberg_1990 · 02-01-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Agreed, though Walter Jones was a pretty good Left Tackle.

I'm more pissed that they gave a spot to a ****ing punter. It's a shame Dr. Z isn't still writing. He was the main reason Guy never made it in the Hall, and it should have stayed that way.

Tackles will usually make it over guards. Right or wrong, it's become sort of a glamor position.

Didn't someone say or a Peter King maybe that there was another punter from that era that had better stats than Ray Guy?

chiefzilla1501 · 02-01-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Tackles will usually make it over guards. Right or wrong, it's become sort of a glamor position.

Didn't someone say or a Peter King maybe that there was another punter from that era that had better stats than Ray Guy?

Peter King and Dr. Z have lobbied against Ray Guy, and they have a great point. I think Dr. Z said that Ray Guy's net punt average was somewhere in the low 30's. The guy punted for distance, never punted coffin corners, consistently led the league in touchbacks, and punted down the middle of the field instead of the sidelines.

Him getting into the hall of fame let alone the lobbying to get him in are just silly.

BlackHelicopters · 02-01-2014, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Aeneas Williams over him? Are you kidding?

Weak sauce.

tk13 · 02-01-2014, 07:24 PM

Apparently when they cut the finalists group from 15 to 10... Shields did make it, so hopefully that means he's close.

You could probably have a good debate whether Reed deserves to be in over Marvin Harrison. And Kevin Greene got left out again.

mcaj22 · 02-01-2014, 07:25 PM

Aeneas Williams was not that good.

vailpass · 02-01-2014, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Agreed, though Walter Jones was a pretty good Left Tackle.

I'm more pissed that they gave a spot to a ****ing punter. It's a shame Dr. Z isn't still writing. He was the main reason Guy never made it in the Hall, and it should have stayed that way.

Yes but if any punter was to make it in it should be Guy. Roby a distant second...

Deberg_1990 · 02-01-2014, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Aeneas Williams was not that good.

He was ok, Hall of Very Good IMO, but not of Fame.

That's my main problem with the NFL hall. They are not exclusive enough like the MLB hall is. Too many Hall of Very Good players in. baseball is much more exclusive.

Oregon chief · 02-01-2014, 07:30 PM

Maybe we need to send them the GIF of Shields putting Ray Lewis on his back when they were both in their prime.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2014, 07:34 PM

What a complete ****ing joke.

Andre Reed? Strahan? ****ing Derrick Brooks? Aeneas Williams?

Apparently the HOF has now become a repository for the Hall of the Very Good without including the great.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-01-2014, 07:34 PM

Is Andre Reed even one of the 20 best WRs of all time?

Averaged 63 catches for 879 yards per year and 5.8 TDs

Dwayne Bowe averages 67 catches for 914 yards and 6.3 TDs.

Dayze · 02-01-2014, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochise

Aeneas Williams over him? Are you kidding?

This. How the **** is Williams even in a HOF discussion.

mcaj22 · 02-01-2014, 07:36 PM

if they let these guys of the late 90s/early 00s in that means they are going to let every stat padder of the last 10 years of the passing league in.

tk13 · 02-01-2014, 07:39 PM

Yeah I think that's more perplexing than Aeneas Williams. He was a pretty good CB... I'm not sure if he's HOF worthy but he got kind of got lost in Arizona for most of his career. I'm sure there are fans in other cities who would treat Shields the same way.

But I probably would've voted Marvin Harrison in over Reed. I know he played with Manning, but still. Harrison had a great rookie year playing with Jim Harbaugh. He was a great, great WR. Awesome hands, the best route runner you'll see.

Deberg_1990 · 02-01-2014, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Is Andre Reed even one of the 20 best WRs of all time?

Averaged 63 catches for 879 yards per year and 5.8 TDs

Dwayne Bowe averages 67 catches for 914 yards and 6.3 TDs.

Hall of Famer Dwayne Bowe in 2025!

02-01-2014, 06:47 PM
Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Shields not elected to Hall of Fame http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-0932e7362447 The team's former guard honored to be on the HOF ballot The Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee announced Saturday that the following group will be enshrined as part of the Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014 in Canton, Ohio on Aug. 2. SENIOR NOMINEES Ray Guy - Punter - 14 seasons, 207 games; Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders (1973-1986) Claude Humphrey - DE - 14 seasons, 171 games; Atlanta Falcons (1968-1978) (1975 inj. res.) Philadelphia Eagles (1979-1981) FIRST-YEAR ELIGIBLES Derrick Brooks - LB -Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995-2008) 14 seasons, 224 games Walter Jones - OL - Seattle Seahawks (1997-2008) 12 seasons, 180 games MODERN-ERA PLAYERS Andre Reed - WR - 16 seasons, 234 games; Buffalo Bills (1985-1999) Washington Redskins (2000) Michael Strahan - DE - 15 seasons, 216 games; New York Giants (1993-2007) Aeneas Williams - CB/Safety - 14 seasons, 211 games; Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals (1991-2000) St. Louis Rams (2001-04) Former Chiefs guard Will Shields says despite not being part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's 2014 Class, he's grateful to be mentioned among the greats of the game. "It’s a great honor to be on that list," Shields said. "Me not getting in doesn’t tarnish anything that's been done over the 14 years of my career. It's still a positive thing. It's okay. There’s nothing I can do to change it. There are a lot of great guys that have played and had great careers on the field and some of them had great careers off the field. All I can say is I put my best foot forward and did everything I possibly could, on the field and off the field. My goal was to be the best teammate, the best player to always end up in the top-tier of what I did and then everything else falls into place after that. That’s sort of the way I looked at my career. Every day I stepped on the field, I wanted to be the best player I could be, on that day, and then after that, whatever happens, happens; I can’t control anything beyond that. I can control my little space, helping out my tackle or helping out my center, or those kind of things, and beyond that, I really can’t control the other pieces. I’ve done what I can do and I have to let the chips fall where they may." Here's to hoping the chips fall in favor of Will, next season, for the Class of 2015.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1927500	Apparently when they cut the finalists group from 15 to 10... Shields did make it, so hopefully that means he's close. You could probably have a good debate whether Reed deserves to be in over Marvin Harrison. And Kevin Greene got left out again.
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	Aeneas Williams was not that good.
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Oregon chief Sideline Join Date: Sep 2003 Casino cash: $9852131	Maybe we need to send them the GIF of Shields putting Ray Lewis on his back when they were both in their prime.
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	What a complete **ing joke. Andre Reed? Strahan? **ing Derrick Brooks? Aeneas Williams? Apparently the HOF has now become a repository for the Hall of the Very Good without including the great. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	if they let these guys of the late 90s/early 00s in that means they are going to let every stat padder of the last 10 years of the passing league in.
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02-01-2014, 07:39 PM	#29
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1927500	Yeah I think that's more perplexing than Aeneas Williams. He was a pretty good CB... I'm not sure if he's HOF worthy but he got kind of got lost in Arizona for most of his career. I'm sure there are fans in other cities who would treat Shields the same way. But I probably would've voted Marvin Harrison in over Reed. I know he played with Manning, but still. Harrison had a great rookie year playing with Jim Harbaugh. He was a great, great WR. Awesome hands, the best route runner you'll see.
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