Chiefs Shields not elected to Hall of Fame - Page 4

Eleazar · 02-01-2014, 06:47 PM

http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-0932e7362447

The team's former guard honored to be on the HOF ballot

The Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee announced Saturday that the following group will be enshrined as part of the Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014 in Canton, Ohio on Aug. 2.

SENIOR NOMINEES

Ray Guy - Punter - 14 seasons, 207 games; Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders (1973-1986)

Claude Humphrey - DE - 14 seasons, 171 games; Atlanta Falcons (1968-1978) (1975 inj. res.) Philadelphia Eagles (1979-1981)

FIRST-YEAR ELIGIBLES

Derrick Brooks - LB -Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995-2008) 14 seasons, 224 games

Walter Jones - OL - Seattle Seahawks (1997-2008) 12 seasons, 180 games

MODERN-ERA PLAYERS

Andre Reed - WR - 16 seasons, 234 games; Buffalo Bills (1985-1999) Washington Redskins (2000)

Michael Strahan - DE - 15 seasons, 216 games; New York Giants (1993-2007)

Aeneas Williams - CB/Safety - 14 seasons, 211 games; Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals (1991-2000) St. Louis Rams (2001-04)

Former Chiefs guard Will Shields says despite not being part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's 2014 Class, he's grateful to be mentioned among the greats of the game.

"It’s a great honor to be on that list," Shields said. "Me not getting in doesn’t tarnish anything that's been done over the 14 years of my career. It's still a positive thing. It's okay. There’s nothing I can do to change it. There are a lot of great guys that have played and had great careers on the field and some of them had great careers off the field. All I can say is I put my best foot forward and did everything I possibly could, on the field and off the field. My goal was to be the best teammate, the best player to always end up in the top-tier of what I did and then everything else falls into place after that. That’s sort of the way I looked at my career. Every day I stepped on the field, I wanted to be the best player I could be, on that day, and then after that, whatever happens, happens; I can’t control anything beyond that. I can control my little space, helping out my tackle or helping out my center, or those kind of things, and beyond that, I really can’t control the other pieces. I’ve done what I can do and I have to let the chips fall where they may."

Here's to hoping the chips fall in favor of Will, next season, for the Class of 2015.

BryanBusby · 02-01-2014, 08:09 PM

Wouldn't surprise me if Blob Gretz has his ****ing hands allover this. It took someone else taking over the campaign to get Derrick Thomas in the HoF finally, because he was such a colossal **** up.

Big Poppa Payne · 02-01-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

It's mostly winning Super Bowls. Very good players with Super Bowl hardware will have an advantage over very good players without.

Only 3 of the 7 have a Super Bowl ring.

stevieray · 02-01-2014, 08:23 PM

wow, that's a pretty weak class.

tk13 · 02-01-2014, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by npayne1978

Only 3 of the 7 have a Super Bowl ring.

Yeah, but they did all play in at least one... I think.

Deberg_1990 · 02-01-2014, 08:29 PM

I don't get the Walter Jones love? He was good.....but great? First ballot great??

Mojo Jojo · 02-01-2014, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BryanBusby

Wouldn't surprise me if Blob Gretz has his ****ing hands allover this. It took someone else taking over the campaign to get Derrick Thomas in the HoF finally, because he was such a colossal **** up.

Not positive, but I think Covitz that handles that now. I know he is the KC voter on the committee.

Pepe Silvia · 02-01-2014, 08:36 PM

Aeneas Williams was good but not even close to HOF good, this is a joke.

tk13 · 02-01-2014, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

I don't get the Walter Jones love? He was good.....but great? First ballot great??

He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

Deberg_1990 · 02-01-2014, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

Oh, I know why Walter Jone is so highly regarded. Shaun Alexander.

Big Poppa Payne · 02-01-2014, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13

He was pretty great. He's a HOF'er. What stinks is he's a first ballot and Roaf wasn't.

I think people are knocking these guys because some of them played in lesser known markets... which is the same thing probably hurting Shields. Jones might be the best player in this class.

And Roaf still may not be in if Jason Whitlock didn't go on a personal mission to let everyone know he should be there.

tk13 · 02-01-2014, 08:42 PM

Walter Jones played 12 years, 180 games. He helped make Shaun Alexander and Steve Hutchinson a lot of money.

Over his entire 180 game career... he allowed a total of 23 sacks, and was called for holding nine times. Nine.

GloryDayz · 02-01-2014, 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious

Get the Chiefs in the Superbowl.

That's what it will take.

This.

Oh and,

Big Poppa Payne · 02-01-2014, 08:47 PM

Charles Tillman might be my new favorite player after that.

**gblowfish** · 02-01-2014, 09:19 PM

Ray Guy was put in by the Seniors Committee. If we go back and look at the stats, I'll bet Jerrell Wilson's stats are almost if not as good as Guy's.

**Rain Man** · 02-01-2014, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Didn't someone say or a Peter King maybe that there was another punter from that era that had better stats than Ray Guy?

Guy played 14 seasons, averaging 42.4 gross. We don't know net. His best season was a 45.3 gross, and that was his only season above 44.0.

Jerrell Wilson played 16 seasons, averaging 43.0 gross. We don't know net. His best season was a 45.5 gross, and he had 7 seasons averaging more than 44.0.

Dave Lewis was another guy who was very good at his peak, but he had a very short career (with the Bengals). He only played 4 seasons, with a career 43.7 gross. His best season was a 46.2, and he had 2 seasons above 44.0.

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Eleazar Beyond the Rapids Join Date: May 2003 Location: Langley, VA Casino cash: $-370000	Shields not elected to Hall of Fame http://www.kcchiefs.com/news/article...a-0932e7362447 The team's former guard honored to be on the HOF ballot The Pro Football Hall of Fame Selection Committee announced Saturday that the following group will be enshrined as part of the Hall of Fame’s Class of 2014 in Canton, Ohio on Aug. 2. SENIOR NOMINEES Ray Guy - Punter - 14 seasons, 207 games; Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders (1973-1986) Claude Humphrey - DE - 14 seasons, 171 games; Atlanta Falcons (1968-1978) (1975 inj. res.) Philadelphia Eagles (1979-1981) FIRST-YEAR ELIGIBLES Derrick Brooks - LB -Tampa Bay Buccaneers (1995-2008) 14 seasons, 224 games Walter Jones - OL - Seattle Seahawks (1997-2008) 12 seasons, 180 games MODERN-ERA PLAYERS Andre Reed - WR - 16 seasons, 234 games; Buffalo Bills (1985-1999) Washington Redskins (2000) Michael Strahan - DE - 15 seasons, 216 games; New York Giants (1993-2007) Aeneas Williams - CB/Safety - 14 seasons, 211 games; Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals (1991-2000) St. Louis Rams (2001-04) Former Chiefs guard Will Shields says despite not being part of the Pro Football Hall of Fame's 2014 Class, he's grateful to be mentioned among the greats of the game. "It’s a great honor to be on that list," Shields said. "Me not getting in doesn’t tarnish anything that's been done over the 14 years of my career. It's still a positive thing. It's okay. There’s nothing I can do to change it. There are a lot of great guys that have played and had great careers on the field and some of them had great careers off the field. All I can say is I put my best foot forward and did everything I possibly could, on the field and off the field. My goal was to be the best teammate, the best player to always end up in the top-tier of what I did and then everything else falls into place after that. That’s sort of the way I looked at my career. Every day I stepped on the field, I wanted to be the best player I could be, on that day, and then after that, whatever happens, happens; I can’t control anything beyond that. I can control my little space, helping out my tackle or helping out my center, or those kind of things, and beyond that, I really can’t control the other pieces. I’ve done what I can do and I have to let the chips fall where they may." Here's to hoping the chips fall in favor of Will, next season, for the Class of 2015.
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