Other Sports Reaction to Marcus smart shoving a fan - Page 11

lcarus · 02-09-2014, 03:47 PM

I still say players should refrain from attacking anyone in the stands. If a fan yells a racial slur at a player, you'd hope someone else in the stands would help get the guy removed.

**LoneWolf** · 02-09-2014, 03:47 PM

Is every one simply taking Smart at his word that Orr called him the N-word? I'm wondering if you take that word away, what everyone would consider justifiable language for Smart to shove a fan. If the guy called him a flopping bitch, is that still grounds for shoving a fan?

**Mav** · 02-09-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Is every one simply taking Smart at his word that Orr called him the N-word? I'm wondering if you take that word away, what everyone would consider justifiable language for Smart to shove a fan. If the guy called him a flopping bitch, is that still grounds for shoving a fan?

I heard that the radio guy for OSU heard Smart tell his coaches that is what he was called.

Most people now a days hear the word bitch so much, that it doesn't even faze them. Im sure that's not the first time he has heard the word bitch, on the basketball court.

And the way his head flipped around if you watch the replay, it was something so distinct and disturbing that he immediately reacted.

I would take him at his word on that account.

**LoneWolf** · 02-09-2014, 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavericks Ace

I would take him at his word on that account.

Just seems odd that nobody else has come forward to corroborate Smart's accusation. There were people all around and when Smart reacted he wasn't right next to the guy. It just seems to me that a 19 year old kid who just realized he did something embarrassing would have a pretty big incentive to exaggerate the situation in an attempt to save a little face.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 02-09-2014, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Just seems odd that nobody else has come forward to corroborate Smart's accusation. There were people all around and when Smart reacted he wasn't right next to the guy. It just seems to me that a 19 year old kid who just realized he did something embarrassing would have a pretty big incentive to exaggerate the situation in an attempt to save a little face.

Well these are Texas Tech fans. Some of the worst people on earth.

**ChiTown** · 02-09-2014, 04:01 PM

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Well these are Texas Tech fans. Some of the worst people on earth.

THAT is a fact. Ever been to a night football game there? I have, and will never ever do that again.

KC_Connection · 02-09-2014, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudy lost the toss

Well these are Texas Tech fans. Some of the worst people on earth.

Nobody has come out to deny it either at this point. So that really doesn't mean anything.

Mr. Laz · 02-09-2014, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Is every one simply taking Smart at his word that Orr called him the N-word? I'm wondering if you take that word away, what everyone would consider justifiable language for Smart to shove a fan. If the guy called him a flopping bitch, is that still grounds for shoving a fan?

true ... what if the guy said 'Even your mom thinks you suck!!'

Would that change anything?

Is it just the racial stuff that means anything goes?

Setsuna · 02-09-2014, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Laz

true ... what if the guy said 'Even your mom thinks you suck!!'

Would that change anything?

Is it just the racial stuff that means anything goes?

In today's America it does.

Rudy tossed tigger's salad · 02-09-2014, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Is every one simply taking Smart at his word that Orr called him the N-word? I'm wondering if you take that word away, what everyone would consider justifiable language for Smart to shove a fan. If the guy called him a flopping bitch, is that still grounds for shoving a fan?

yes.

Was just a bar shove anyway.

Fansy the Famous Bard · 02-09-2014, 03:51 PM

Marcus Smart plays angry. This isn't surprising at all.

My Aunt and Uncle are big OSU boosters, and they've acknowledged that the way he, Cobbins, Brown, and Clark consistently act and play has been embarrassing to the university. They don't like it - haven't dating back to last year. Their only defense is "You can't blame the whole team\school for the actions of a couple of bad apples"... Then I point out that those 4 were half of the active players. That's more than a few bad apples... that's a trend.

Cannibal · 02-09-2014, 03:55 PM

I wish he'd have knocked that fat old **** right the **** out.

**Bearcat** · 02-09-2014, 03:56 PM

So, this is the conference realignment thread of the Smart discussion...

TLO · 02-09-2014, 04:00 PM

Being around Smart's age, I understand someone losing their cool, and doing something they later regret. I'm not black, but if I were, I imagine I probably would react somewhat similar if my adrenaline was already pumping and someone threw out a racial slur.

That being said, what he did was wrong. The end.

GloryDayz · 02-09-2014, 04:12 PM

The world has become too sensitive IMO. I'm not sure what was said, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I doubt the old guy was "cheering on his team." If he was talking shit to the player, and athlete, meh, it's all good. Far too many people say "fighting is never the answer" then welcome home our troops. Not that they're the same thing (please don't preach to me!!), but it's pretty clear that sometime physical combat is at least one of the options available to some being heckled and hecklers need to talk shit with that in mind.

So yeah, Smart crossed some modern-day line, but I'm OK with that line getting moved back/returning to something closer to where it used to be and hecklers only heckle to the extent they can back it up.

It'll be interesting to see if the press is cool enough to focus in on the fat-ass heckler and see is he keeps trash talking high-end athletes. I know I'd love to have him near me at an event, I'd heckle (him) like a remind him what kind of son his father raised.

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lcarus Everybody Lies. Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: 22 Acacia Avenue Casino cash: $-1989887	I still say players should refrain from attacking anyone in the stands. If a fan yells a racial slur at a player, you'd hope someone else in the stands would help get the guy removed.
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LoneWolf Constable of Untruths Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $-988916	Is every one simply taking Smart at his word that Orr called him the N-word? I'm wondering if you take that word away, what everyone would consider justifiable language for Smart to shove a fan. If the guy called him a flopping bitch, is that still grounds for shoving a fan?
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02-09-2014, 03:51 PM	#11
Fansy the Famous Bard I'm with the Banned Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $-1203560	Marcus Smart plays angry. This isn't surprising at all. My Aunt and Uncle are big OSU boosters, and they've acknowledged that the way he, Cobbins, Brown, and Clark consistently act and play has been embarrassing to the university. They don't like it - haven't dating back to last year. Their only defense is "You can't blame the whole team\school for the actions of a couple of bad apples"... Then I point out that those 4 were half of the active players. That's more than a few bad apples... that's a trend. __________________ Hi.
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02-09-2014, 03:55 PM	#12
Cannibal Better to burn out... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Bible Thumping Country Casino cash: $10010618	I wish he'd have knocked that fat old ** right the ** out.
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Bearcat Would an idiot do that? Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Arizona Casino cash: $-1115069	So, this is the conference realignment thread of the Smart discussion... __________________
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02-09-2014, 04:00 PM	#14
TLO Life is changing.. Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: NW Missouri Casino cash: $-2630000	Being around Smart's age, I understand someone losing their cool, and doing something they later regret. I'm not black, but if I were, I imagine I probably would react somewhat similar if my adrenaline was already pumping and someone threw out a racial slur. That being said, what he did was wrong. The end.
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02-09-2014, 04:12 PM	#15
GloryDayz (Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diving Casino cash: $695380	The world has become too sensitive IMO. I'm not sure what was said, but I'm going to go out on a limb and say I doubt the old guy was "cheering on his team." If he was talking shit to the player, and athlete, meh, it's all good. Far too many people say "fighting is never the answer" then welcome home our troops. Not that they're the same thing (please don't preach to me!!), but it's pretty clear that sometime physical combat is at least one of the options available to some being heckled and hecklers need to talk shit with that in mind. So yeah, Smart crossed some modern-day line, but I'm OK with that line getting moved back/returning to something closer to where it used to be and hecklers only heckle to the extent they can back it up. It'll be interesting to see if the press is cool enough to focus in on the fat-ass heckler and see is he keeps trash talking high-end athletes. I know I'd love to have him near me at an event, I'd heckle (him) like a remind him what kind of son his father raised.
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