Chiefs Chiefs could be stacked for next offseason. - Page 6

Direckshun · 03-12-2014, 10:24 AM

I'm anticipating several things here:

1. The Chiefs are only shopping in the bargain bin this offseason, and thus should bring in 4 compensatory picks next year (my guess: a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th).

2. The Chiefs could open up cap space for next year by releasing Tamba Hali, Brandon Flowers, and Sean Smith.

If the Chiefs do bring in 4 compensatory picks, they will have 11 picks, 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in 2015.

If the Chiefs do cut those players, which I reckon they might, that would open up about $24m in cap space. On top of the $24m they're already projected to have (pre-Alex Smith and pre-Justin Houston extensions which will take up cap space, and pre-Eric Berry extension, which will free some up), that'll leave the Chiefs with $48m in cap space in 2015.

That should be enough to account for extensions for Smith and Houston, and still have over $30m left over for tons of free agent signings if they so desire, and tons of draft picks to either (a.) trade for talent, or (b.) bring in great talent in the Draft.

Just some food for thought.

TEX · 03-12-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Please, explain to me what moves you would have made.

Its hard to do from my phone, but Id have retained Schwartz for starters...

Direckshun · 03-12-2014, 10:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Year 1: Make playoffs but lose in the first round. Build hope and win those fans back!
Year 2: Rebuilding year. End with 6-7 wins. It's ok....we had a tough schedule.
Year 3: 7 to 8 wins. We're almost there!
Year 4: The wheels come off. 2-4 wins. Hey....at least we have a top 5 pick!

Year 5: Chiefs get a new front office, trade for a backup QB.

Direckshun · 03-12-2014, 10:54 AM

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Its hard to do from my phone, but Id have retained Schwartz for starters...

That'll close the gap on Peyton Manning! Way to go!

**The Franchise** · 03-12-2014, 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Year 5: Chiefs get a new front office, trade for a backup QB.

Rinse and repeat.

Dante84 · 03-12-2014, 10:56 AM

2 things.

1 - What is the quality of the 2015 draft class? Decent? Shitty?

2 - Who are the 2015 FA's?

Mr. Kotter · 03-12-2014, 10:56 AM

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God, let's hope you don't. Because that was a pretty sorry attempt to rebut my point.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nfl...turnarounds/6/

Some of 'em became long term...

OldSchool · 03-12-2014, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

2 things.

1 - What is the quality of the 2015 draft class? Decent? Shitty?

2 - Who are the 2015 FA's?

1. Likely shitty because of the talent drain caused by all of the underclassmen declaring this year.

**The Franchise** · 03-12-2014, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84

2 things.

1 - What is the quality of the 2015 draft class? Decent? Shitty?

2 - Who are the 2015 FA's?

Obviously it's unknown but the depth of this draft with all of the underclassmen who left early is more than likely going to hurt next years draft class.

Preliminary list of FAs as of right now.

http://nfltraderumors.co/2015-nfl-free-agents-list/

Mr. Kotter · 03-12-2014, 10:58 AM

Focusing on the long term, and shoring things up for the short term...should NOT be mutually exclusive endeavors.

**Bowser** · 03-12-2014, 11:00 AM

**** this shit. There is NO reason to put a team and/or an entire season on cruise control. Even with the guys we lost, we're not in THAT bad of shape. If we brought in Clemons and Sanders today, the team is instantly better. Same with Sproles or Hester to take DMC's role over.

We're not that far away. If they piss it away due to numbers, I swear I will not go to a game this season unless it's a free ticket.

OldSchool · 03-12-2014, 11:00 AM

Richard Sherman could hit the market in 2015.

mcaj22 · 03-12-2014, 11:01 AM

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Richard Sherman could hit the market in 2015.

lol yea right

**Bowser** · 03-12-2014, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Richard Sherman will likely get the franchise tag in 2015.

fixed

TEX · 03-12-2014, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That'll close the gap on Peyton Manning! Way to go!

Quit being a dick head when someone answers your question. I said for starters and it would have been a great start. When a guy like Schwartz is not retained, when so many others are not, it sends the wrong message. And to address your dick head response, it damn sure would have closed the gap a lot more than doing nothing does. Besides, I'm interested in making the Chiefs better for the sake of making them better. Closing the gap on Denver would be a byproduct of that .

FringeNC · 03-12-2014, 11:03 AM

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

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