Chiefs Chiefs could be stacked for next offseason. - Page 7

Direckshun · 03-12-2014, 10:24 AM

I'm anticipating several things here:

1. The Chiefs are only shopping in the bargain bin this offseason, and thus should bring in 4 compensatory picks next year (my guess: a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th).

2. The Chiefs could open up cap space for next year by releasing Tamba Hali, Brandon Flowers, and Sean Smith.

If the Chiefs do bring in 4 compensatory picks, they will have 11 picks, 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in 2015.

If the Chiefs do cut those players, which I reckon they might, that would open up about $24m in cap space. On top of the $24m they're already projected to have (pre-Alex Smith and pre-Justin Houston extensions which will take up cap space, and pre-Eric Berry extension, which will free some up), that'll leave the Chiefs with $48m in cap space in 2015.

That should be enough to account for extensions for Smith and Houston, and still have over $30m left over for tons of free agent signings if they so desire, and tons of draft picks to either (a.) trade for talent, or (b.) bring in great talent in the Draft.

Just some food for thought.

**The Franchise** · 03-12-2014, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Mother****erJones · 03-12-2014, 11:05 AM

We should've been stacked after '08 draft.

TEX · 03-12-2014, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Thats exactly right. If you dont sign them, then something went wrong.

milkman · 03-12-2014, 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Its hard to do from my phone, but Id have retained Schwartz for starters...

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

That'll close the gap on Peyton Manning! Way to go!

You are full of shit, Direckshun.
The move by Tex gives your line an opportunity to retain some chemistry and cohesion.

I saw an offense that improved over the course of the last 6 games, and adefense whose major weakness was exposed and taken advantage of over the course of the last 9.

You add a reliable WR opposite Bowe, and competent FS play, and with a couple of additions in the draft, and you have a team that can compete.

Trading 2 draft picks for a QB, then follow that up with moves designed to stockpile picks and cap space are inconsistent approaches.

**BossChief** · 03-12-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Just completely gloss over the fact that the cap is increasing almost $10 million a year over the next 2 years.

And you can draft well all you want.....but it doesn't mean dick when you don't sign those draft picks to their 2nd contract.

Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.

Direckshun · 03-12-2014, 11:13 AM

The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.

milkman · 03-12-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.

Mother****erJones · 03-12-2014, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

You are full of shit, Direckshun.
The move by Tex gives your line an opportunity to retain some chemistry and cohesion.

I saw an offense that improved over the course of the last 6 games, and adefense whose major weakness was exposed and taken advantage of over the course of the last 9.

You add a reliable WR opposite Bowe, and competent FS play, and with a couple of additions in the draft, and you have a team that can compete.

Trading 2 draft picks for a QB, then follow that up with moves designed to stockpile picks and cap space are inconsistent approaches.

Ya I said last night give me a FS, Emmanuel Sanders and DRC. Add to line in the draft except round 1. I'd spend on skill positions and the core players.

OldSchool · 03-12-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Exactly.

You can't say "we want to build through the draft" in one breath and then say "it's ok that we are letting everyone walk in FA that we drafted" in the next breath.

Except, they didn't draft those guys.

mcaj22 · 03-12-2014, 11:15 AM

or give up two 2nd round picks for a 30 year old QB and then say, we want to build through the draft.

OldSchool · 03-12-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

Cliff Avril, Michael Bennett and Marshawn Lynch.

Avril and Bennett were both bargain signings, not huge bank breaking deals like the Donkeys are doing.

Fish · 03-12-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by FringeNC

How many examples are there of teams successfully building through free-agency? Not many. Given the new CBA, building through the draft will become even more of an imperative given cheap rookie contracts.

Teams consistently win by drafting (include rookie FAs here too) well AND having a good coaching staff.

The problem is that we've been trying to build through the draft for some time now, only to piss down our leg when it comes time to sign a second contract for our home grown talent. Building through the draft isn't very meaningless if the team refuses to pay a contract once those draft picks exceed their rookie contract.

**The Franchise** · 03-12-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.

Bullshit.

jd1020 · 03-12-2014, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Except, they didn't draft those guys.

Time to rebuild after making the playoffs in year 1.

**Bowser** · 03-12-2014, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

The team that retains Schwartz still loses ground to Manning and the Broncos this offseason.

That's not entirely fair seeing as how the entire league has lost ground to the Broncos this offseason thus far.

The Broncos are going all in on 2014. This is likely it for Manning. None of that gives the Chiefs a free pass to sit back and wait for the storm to pass.

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Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Chiefs could be stacked for next offseason. I'm anticipating several things here: 1. The Chiefs are only shopping in the bargain bin this offseason, and thus should bring in 4 compensatory picks next year (my guess: a 3rd, two 4ths, and a 5th). 2. The Chiefs could open up cap space for next year by releasing Tamba Hali, Brandon Flowers, and Sean Smith. If the Chiefs do bring in 4 compensatory picks, they will have 11 picks, 9 picks in the first 5 rounds in 2015. If the Chiefs do cut those players, which I reckon they might, that would open up about $24m in cap space. On top of the $24m they're already projected to have (pre-Alex Smith and pre-Justin Houston extensions which will take up cap space, and pre-Eric Berry extension, which will free some up), that'll leave the Chiefs with $48m in cap space in 2015. That should be enough to account for extensions for Smith and Houston, and still have over $30m left over for tons of free agent signings if they so desire, and tons of draft picks to either (a.) trade for talent, or (b.) bring in great talent in the Draft. Just some food for thought.
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